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Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 7 (343443)
08-25-2006 9:58 PM


As I debate counterparts on the Substantiating The Validity Of Bible Prophecy thread and many others it has become apparant from much of the talk that many are assuming a whole lot about Buzsaw and the Buzsaw Hypothesis that is not factual. So as for folks who debate and disuss matters with me this may help to clear up much of what folks are assuming about Buzsaw that just is not true.
1. I am not a Seventh Day Adventist. I am the member of no church. I have attended many churches, all 1st day ones such as Baptist, Christian & Missionary Alliance, undenominational Bible churches, Undenom. Community churches, United Methodist, Wesleyan Methodist, and various other undenominational et al for most of my Christian life since age 10 when I became a Christian. For the past four years I've been faithfully attending sabbath school and worship services at a 7th day evangelical Baptist church.
2. I do not ascribe to much of the prophecy teaching of Hal Lindsey and most of the more notable evangelic preachers and teachers.
3. Most teach a pre-tribulation rapture. I do not.
4. Most teach a revived 10 nation Roman empire. I do not. It is a global empire of 10, likely either heads of a ten regional earth or ten unidentified who pull the puppet strings so to speak. I never have taught a revived Roman Empire. This is why they were wrong on the EU.
5. Most say the first beast of Revelation 13 is the antichrist. I do not. It is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13. There's a big difference.
6. None that I know of agree with me on global warming.
7. None that i know of agree with me on the Vatican relative to Rev 17, 18.
8. 7th Day Adventists believe that the Vatican = antichrist entity. I do not.
9. Nearly all except 7th day Adventists look for an imminent(can happen any time) rapture. I do not. More needs to happen before this event.
9. Most do not believe that antichrist will be a Muslim as I do but some are coming on board on that as the events beging to indicate. I've been saying he will be Muslim on every board I've participated in which is four including EvC.
10. Most are YEC's. I am not. I am however a YCC, which is a Young Creature Creationist, meaning all creatures were created roughly six milleniums ago.
11. Nearly all say that God/Jehovah, the father, Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit are persons. I do not. Jesus is the only person by definition of the trinity. Nor do they have 3 personalities, et al.
12. Most join churches. I do not on the basis of how they are set up, but I very religiously attend them each and every week at least for Sabbath or Sunday school and worship service.
13. On church government et al, I'm pretty much a loner doctrinally. As per the NT, , imo, the church pastors were not professional one man churchmen doing all the stuff professional pastors do today. I believe they had pastors (plural) in each church, men who were able to do the preaching. They had a bishop/overseer who acted as a president would in a secular organization. They also had deacons who ministered in various ways. They had evangelists who traveled and preached around, evangelizing and they had teachers, prophets, et al in the churches. The only ones of these who were professional with pay, imo were the evangelists and apostles/missionaries who needed to travel and receive support, not being in one location to make a living. The blanket word depicting all of these men ws the word elders, which simply means older ones and often in both OT and NT was used in reference to the older ruling men of Israel and of the NT church. As I read the epistles, this is how I see it. None of the churchmen of the churches I've been in see this as I do. I do not get on my soap box and try to change them as I know it aintagona happen so we get along ok. My present pastor knows my thinking and respects me for it. He who is a PHD listens and learns from me with no degree and I learn from him. We both agree that "iron sharpens iron," and get along great as we study together.
14. Most refer to Jesus as God perse. I always refer to God/Jehovah as the both god and father exactly as Jesus referred to him always. Both the OT and the NT refer to God as the god and father of messiah/Jesus and the NT referrs to Jesus as the son of God the father. I say keep it as written and don't obfuscate the trinity by muddling the terms. Each member of the trinity has a unique and separate function. God is the father/god/majesty of the Universe. Jesus is the son of God, the mediatior/high priest between God and men and is lord/master of all believers to whom we will give an account to in the judgement one day. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of both the father and the son and the only multipresent member of the trinity who the God sends into the universe to effect the work which the God wants done.
15. Most pray to all three members of the trinity. I pray only to the father/God just as Jesus taught we should and as the apostles did.
The above items are some things that come to mind. Feel free to ask about other matters.
If an admin wishes to promote this I imagine the Coffee House is the forum for it.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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AdminJar
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Message 2 of 7 (343446)
08-25-2006 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
08-25-2006 9:58 PM


Should this be moved to Columnists corner
with the other belief statements? If so, can you put it into a word document and send it to the Queen? Or, if you want I can simply move it there.
Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

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Buzsaw
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Message 3 of 7 (343447)
08-25-2006 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
08-25-2006 10:09 PM


1. I don't see Jar's Belief Statement as an appropriate title for another member's belief profile. I prefer to have it titled what the topic is about which is the Buzsaw's Belief Statement.
2. The Jar thread is already on message 250 of part two. Imo, it's time to end that and have other members who wish to do so do their own thread rather than the Jar thread going on and on into more parts.

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AdminJar
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Message 4 of 7 (343448)
08-25-2006 10:39 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Buzsaw
08-25-2006 10:32 PM


It would be called whatever you want and a new thread.

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Buzsaw
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Message 5 of 7 (343451)
08-25-2006 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by AdminJar
08-25-2006 10:39 PM


Ok, that's fine if you wish to move it for me. Thanks.

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Buzsaw
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Message 6 of 7 (343452)
08-25-2006 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by AdminJar
08-25-2006 10:39 PM


As for title you can either leave it as I have it or if you think Buzsaw's Belief Statement sounds better, please change it to that. Either is fine with me. Thanks again.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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AdminJar
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Message 7 of 7 (343454)
08-25-2006 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
08-25-2006 10:54 PM


Moved to Columnists Corner

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