God is a deadbeat Dad

A Christian, Let's have the evidence of a global flood ~4,500 years ago then. That's evidence that can be seen all around the world. Or perhaps Mammuthus has a point. But then we already know you're not big on backing up your assertions, don't we?.Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

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And yes, had I not had a proper upbringing bound in a strong
Christian faith, I might have been taken in by the homosexual
lie. Thanks be to GOD, I am a very happily married man with a
child of my own.

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I am not Homosexual However I have friends who are (I still don't understand it 100%) But I do know however they feel the same way about guys as I feel about Women. Why would your God do that to them if it was wrong?Also are you saying All evolutionist where not brought up good Christens also with that? If so I was Brought up in the Faith and was really deep in it. I did research and I am now Atheist/Agnostic(still debating myself on that)

I'm curious, what about it is hard to understand? They're sexually attracted to members of their own sex. It's pretty simple.

I mean I would like to Understand what makes it happen. whats different then mine? thats what I mean

Well, I think you're making the mistake that sexuality is something programmed into your body. It's influenced (ala the other discussion about genetics), to be sure, but the brain is still the largest factor determining who you view as an appropriate mate.

Some aspects of homosexuality strike me as difficult too. I suspect it may simply come from our society condemning such people, but I've never understood why they feel a need to declare it to everyone. I recall meeting someone in a pub (yes, I used to drink (we all sin )) who told me: "Hi, I'm Paul. I'm gay." I think I replied with something like. "Call me Kash. I fancy women."I don't see homosexuality as "deviant". I don't expect my straight friends to tell me that they like women, so I don't expect my gay ones to tell me they prefer men. Yet they do. Why? As I said, it might come down to feeling burdened by people thinking of them as hetero unless they declare otherwise, but this Paul chap told me when we hadn't even discussed sex! [Deanglosaxonization. --Admin]------------------

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All the boys think she's a spy

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[This message has been edited by Admin, 08-20-2003]

Hi Agent,A small request, you may want to consider editing your post to replace a certain word with a more acceptable term, remember that there are quite a few children viewing these boards.Many Thanks for you co-operation!Admin Brian.

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I suspect it may simply come from our society condemning such people, but I've never understood why they feel a need to declare it to everyone.

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There's a few reasons, and I think you just nailed one of them right there. Society is so constantly beating on these people, that a number of them will stand up whenever possible, and say "Yeah! I'm gay! And you know what? You're gonna have to freakin' deal with that!"On the other end of things, it may be an "honesty up front" sort of thing. "Hey, I'm gay. If you've got a problem with that, you might want to go talk to someone else" shortened to "I'm gay."One more possibility... you met a stranger in a bar who informed you of his sexuality. He might have just been hitting on you.

I hope this doesn't mean we have to forgo analysing biblical language. What would Bible Study be like without a few anglosaxonizations? There were a number of Bible words my mother wouldn't let us use around the house.Many Bibles have converted inspired pornography to bland and barely decipherable drivel. No wonder so few young people find the Bible exciting these days. The language of many Bible stories, especially in the original tongues, is as perverse as any X rated literature of modern times. Halig Werd.Perhaps an adults only forum would be advisable for those of us who have grown accustomed to free speech?{I rave, I rant}db------------------
Doesn't anyone graduate Sunday School?

Yep, saying "I'm gay" right up front is often just a way of getting the info out so if someone has a problem with it they can move on right away. I'm speaking as a bisexual myself, and often tell people up front for simply that reason. I figure life is short enough, why waste my time, or the other person's time. Besides, it isn't always a matter of "shoving it in everyone's face", some of the things that certain people will consider "shoving it in their face" are just holding hands or other behavior that is widely accepted if you are straight. A straight couple will hold hands for comfort, and to show that they love each other - so will a gay couple, it doesn't have to be anything more than that (such as politically motivated).So I suppose by some here I am one "lost lamb" - female, atheist, evolutionist and bisexual - dang, I'm just full of sin aren't I?

Well, I just skimmed this topic from the beginning, and the theme seemed to have parted company with the conversation somewhere back on page 2 (or maybe it was late page 1).Anyone care to review all this (especially page 1) and try to bring things back on topic?The mad topic closer,
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Your assertion that there is no evidence for the FLOOD, is as
valid as the evolutionist's assertion that given enough time
and the "right" conditions, life will spring from inamimate objects.

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Then please provide the evidence for the flood which can explain the fact that genetic bottlenecks that are a requirement of reducing a population down to a single breeding pair i.e. Noah's ark are not seen in any species...since every piece of evidence I have ever seen from molecular biology and other disciplines have not supported your mythical flood I consider my assertion supported...you on the other hand have again outed your profound ignorance by confusing evolution with abiogenesis which is not an "assertion made by evolutionists".

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And yes, had I not had a proper upbringing bound in a strong
Christian faith, I might have been taken in by the homosexual
lie. Thanks be to GOD, I am a very happily married man with a
child of my own.

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I see your "proper upbringing" included a heavy dose of bigotry and a deep aversion to education...luckily most christians are not like you.....and interesting that you would suggest that anyone who is not christian is homosexual (your logic deficit is truly amazing)...I am an atheist heterosexual and also married..go figure.

Hi Bill, No it doesn't, but it would be nice if we didnt have to use unnecessary profanities.Freedom of speech is a basic human right, but with a right there always comes a responsibility.AdminBrian.

I agree, of course. Just concerned about censorship in general, and censorship of the Bible in particular. I apparently read the post in question after it had been edited. Who knows, I might have agreed with your assessment.Long ago I notice, and was fond of pointing out, that when Jesus told his disciples NOT to call people by certain particularly nasty names, he actually said those names aloud. IMO it is the context and intent of use, not any particular word in itself, which determines appropriate versus inappropriate usage. But then I suspect our admin's agree, or I myself would have been curbed on more than one occasion already.db

This thread looks terminal, we never did decide if God is a deadbeat dad or not!AdminBrian