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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Version 1 No 3 (formerly Part III)
iceage 
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Message 166 of 357 (374477)
01-04-2007 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Casey Powell
01-04-2007 3:21 PM


Re: Trying to date rocks is a problem
Why is it whenever any of your posts sound semi-intelligent, it is when you plagiarize?
The qualities you have displayed in your short time here are:
  • ignorant
  • disrespectful
  • arrogant
  • dishonest
    You are a credit to your faith...

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    Message 167 of 357 (374478)
    01-04-2007 4:06 PM
    Reply to: Message 136 by iceage
    01-03-2007 6:43 PM


    Re: Young earth, it's bogus
    You haven't been around me for too long then.

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    Message 168 of 357 (374479)
    01-04-2007 4:07 PM
    Reply to: Message 160 by Brian
    01-04-2007 3:59 PM


    Re: Young earth, it's NOT bogus
    Don't feel bad, Brian - you did well for a Scotch drinker.

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    Casey Powell 
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    Message 169 of 357 (374480)
    01-04-2007 4:07 PM
    Reply to: Message 166 by iceage
    01-04-2007 4:06 PM


    Re: Trying to date rocks is a problem
    I gave credit to the author. Thats not plagiarizing.
    Why do you continuously make false assertions after I correct someone else for the same thing in a previous post?

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    Casey Powell 
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    Message 170 of 357 (374481)
    01-04-2007 4:08 PM
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    01-04-2007 4:07 PM


    Re: Young earth, it's NOT bogus
    Thats his problem then...sorry, didn't realize what you were talking about!
    Edited by Casey Powell, : No reason given.
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    Casey Powell 
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    Message 171 of 357 (374482)
    01-04-2007 4:09 PM
    Reply to: Message 166 by iceage
    01-04-2007 4:06 PM


    Re: Trying to date rocks is a problem
    Boooo on the Ad Hominizing

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    Casey Powell 
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    Message 172 of 357 (374486)
    01-04-2007 4:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 147 by RAZD
    01-03-2007 11:18 PM


    Re: Evidence AGAINST is probably not enough either
    You're talking about this as if its a concept, not reality.
    Hmmm......yet, I'm the one living in denial here?
    Edited by Casey Powell, : No reason given.

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    Coragyps
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    Message 173 of 357 (374487)
    01-04-2007 4:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 167 by Casey Powell
    01-04-2007 4:06 PM


    Re: Young earth, it's bogus
    You haven't been around me for too long then.
    I may be close to long enough. How 'bout something besides bald assertions and cut'n'pastes?

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    Casey Powell 
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    Message 174 of 357 (374488)
    01-04-2007 4:20 PM
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    01-04-2007 4:18 PM


    Re: Young earth, it's bogus
    Lets see.
    You provide...bald assertions.
    But, me...no not allowed to provide bald assertions am I?
    Sounds pretty much like a double standard if you're to ask me.

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    Message 175 of 357 (374490)
    01-04-2007 4:21 PM
    Reply to: Message 150 by Casey Powell
    01-04-2007 3:21 PM


    Re: Trying to date rocks is a problem
    Cut and pastes are not good. Please put your own arguments forward at this forum, you may cite your sources for your claims.
    You were asked to do this in Message 106. If you continue inserting large copy/pastes everywhere you will find yourself being suspended for longer and longer periods of time. The copy/paste has been rendered invisible.
    Enjoy your stay here, but please argue with your own words in the future. Any comments regarding this moderator post should be taken to the appropriate thread listed in my signature below. Do not reply to this post. Thank you.

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    Message 176 of 357 (374492)
    01-04-2007 4:24 PM


    Signal to noise ratio
    This was an interesting thread. It has become awful. Certain members are attracting the attention of certain moderators for allowing certain threads to become so horribly off topic and filled with tiny pointless posts.
    This thread is closing until it stands a chance of not being spammed to death.
    Edited by AdminModulous, : No reason given.

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    Message 177 of 357 (375116)
    01-07-2007 1:15 PM


    Now that this is open again ...
    People who want to comment or make suggestions for the version 2 I am building at Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1 can do so here.
    Thanks iceage.

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    iceage 
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    Message 178 of 357 (375358)
    01-08-2007 12:46 PM
    Reply to: Message 177 by RAZD
    01-07-2007 1:15 PM


    Where are the informed YEC
    I am enjoying your magnum opus you are crafting.
    Unfortunately, the typical YEC will just roll their eyes back into their head after the first installment.
    I would like to see your "Carbon-14 Correlations to Lake Varves" as a stand alone topic as it is straightforward and with convincing correlations.
    Just where are all informed intelligent YEC'ers? The norm is that one will pop in, cut-n-paste something (confident they are going to rip the heathens a new hole) and then find themselves unable to defend their position and then quietly leave.
    The shallowness of the YEC position is glaring.

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    Message 179 of 357 (377221)
    01-15-2007 4:29 PM
    Reply to: Message 54 by Coragyps
    12-08-2006 4:24 PM


    Carbon-13 Neutron Capture
    fyi
    http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PR/v95/i1/p92_1
    quote:
    Thermal Neutron Capture Cross Section of Carbon-13
    G. R. Hennig
    Chemistry Division, Argonne National Laboratory, Lemont, Illinois
    Received 22 March 1954
    The thermal neutron capture cross section of C13 has been determined from the amount of C14 formed in pile-irradiated samples of graphite, barium carbonate, and carbon dioxide. Because of the impurity reaction, N14(n, p)C14, of comparatively high cross section, the results were consistent only when samples were used which were enriched in C13.
    The average isotopic cross section determined for the enriched samples was 1.40.2 millibarns. The final value of the cross section in these samples corrected for the estimated residual nitrogen impurity is 0.90.2 millibarn.
    ©1954 The American Physical Society
    URL:http://link.aps.org/abstract/PR/v95/p92
    DOI:10.1103/PhysRev.95.92
    The way I read this is that the measure of neutron capture by carbon-13 was hampered by the simultaneous production of carbon-14 from nitrogen-14 similar to the atmospheric production.
    ie - both systems are operating in the presence of radioactivity.
    or am I missing something?

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    Message 180 of 357 (377225)
    01-15-2007 4:49 PM
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    01-15-2007 4:29 PM


    Re: Carbon-13 Neutron Capture
    Just a few items:
    Pile-irradiated means exposed to neutrons in a nuclear reactor.
    A cross-section is really something like a reaction probability. It has units of area. A barn is 1x10^-24 square centimetres.
    What they are saying is that because the reaction with nitrogen procedes easily (high cross section) and it is hard to get rid of nitrogen, they had to increase the amount of carbon-13 in their target to be able to get a useful signal from its reaction.
    Edited by Woodsy, : grammar

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