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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined:
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Thank you for providing this information.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
I'm not a YEC.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Obviously, YECs are good at judging things. I think Dredge is somewhere between OEC and Gap Creationist. An old earth does not bother him or his beliefs, old life does. But the logic pitfalls that hobble YEC also hobble other forms of Christian creationism, especially in regards to fossils and the evidence they provide for (1) the earliest life being single cell prokaryotes similar to modern blue-green algae, and (2) the natural history of life on earth falling into nested hierarchies based on homologies and shared derived features. There are also Hindu Old Age Creationists and Muslim Young Earth Creationists, so a better inclusive term is just Creationist. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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I tend to see myself as a Cosmological Creationist in that I believe that the universe logically has a Creator...but beyond that I dont emphasize this whole earth creationism thing...apart from perhaps the motives, workings, and intentions of the human soul. I feel that limiting my belief to what one book says is crippling my objectivity. Not that I don't respect the Bible. I believe that the GOD whom I believe in would not disapprove of my inquisitive nature.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I tend to see myself as a Cosmological Creationist in that I believe that the universe logically has a Creator ... You are evolving into a Deist ... by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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AlexCaledin Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 64 From: Samara, Russia Joined: |
Anyway, may the devils make in the depth of the earth such stupid fossil as the stupidest evolutionist can desire to find!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2105 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Anyway, may the devils make in the depth of the earth such stupid fossil as the stupidest evolutionist can desire to find! With comments such as that you expose yourself as nothing but a religion-obsessed troll. I certainly wouldn't mind if you took your trolling elsewhere.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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Anyway, may the devils make in the depth of the earth such stupid fossil as the stupidest evolutionist can desire to find! Not going to happen, because devils are not so stupid as to waste their time with such efforts. Instead, they will create false theologies like "creation science" which teach its followers that the universe being the way that it is, the way that God had created it, disproves God. Not only do devils get an immense return on investment with such false theologies, but they don't even have to do any work -- all they have to do is give that false theology to a creationist who will then spread it with extreme zealousness. Their victims do all the work for them!
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AlexCaledin writes:
Why is it that you're afraid to respond to even the stupidest evolutionist? (For the sake of this discussion, that would be me.)
Anyway, may the devils make in the depth of the earth such stupid fossil as the stupidest evolutionist can desire to find!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Beautifully preserved in amber.
Chimerarachne has spinnerets, making it a spider, but it still has a tail like a basal arachnid. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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KyleConno Junior Member (Idle past 1490 days) Posts: 12 Joined: |
Of course. There nothing to debate here. Those remains didn't appear all by themselves. There are enough resources online to read about it and Darwin's theory itself.
Just think again. If not evolution, how else did the fossils end up on earth?
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frako Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
I think the prevailing creationist theory is that the devil put them there to guide us away from god.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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That would have been far too much work filled with far too many details to keep straight.
Obviously, Satan merely created a theology that teaches that those fossils and all the other evidence would disprove God. The beauty of that plan is that all he had to do was to give it to some "true Christians" who would then do all the work of spreading it.
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frako Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
That would have been far too much work filled with far too many details to keep straight. Whats the power level of satan, it must be at least on the same scale as gods if he was to stand any chance in his revolt. God made the universe in 6 days, how long would it take satan to make all those fossils. Edited by frako, : satans powerlevel is over 9000 Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If not evolution, how else did the fossils end up on earth? The worldwide Flood of Noah of course. That was its purpose, to kill everything on the land except those saved on the ark. The fossils are terrific evidence for that event. The Flood would have killed enough creatures to account for the enormous abundance of fossils we actually see, and only the Flood could have created the ideal conditions for fossilization by soaking the land and depositing sediments successively to bury them rapidly. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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