Let's talk about food

(my particular respons to condescending vegetarians)*points to teeth of different shapes and purposes*do you see these?
they say i'm an omnivore and that means nothing is off the menu. and that includes you.

Great post, and thanks for the thoughtful reply.I think it's tragic that you have never really taken great pleasure in food and eating. Of course, I was expecting you to say that you feel the same way about the relatively stringent limits I put on my personal sexual activities.(note, I said relative, people. Don't get any ideas.)The largest difference between eating and sex, to me, is that while it is possible to go for very long stretches of time, even an entire lifetime, without ever having sex, or having a very limited sexual "menu", and be quite healthy, physically and mentally (if the limitations are chosen), it is not at all the same with food.We must consume calories to keep our bodies alive. We must also consume a variety of different foods in order to get all of the nutrients we need to grow properly and to stave off illness and disease. Sex is not as pressing a biological requirement. Indeed, hormones which control our desire for sex wax and wane throughout life.So, I pretty much agree with you regarding viewing my criticisms of people's food issues from your point of view of sex, this biological requirement to "eat or die" is still a major difference to me.

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I think the question to ask is if you knew animals were about to eat you (which they certainly can and do in the real world) how would you want to be treated... that would be humane.

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To me putting on airs that one can define eating meat as "bad" or "inhumane" and that we shouldn't because we can rise above it, is not only a testament to the overadundance of food, but a sort of mysanthropy and delusion that we somehow are more than and better than other animals.

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This was perfectly put.That's why I mentioned that I do not take the death of an animal that I eat for nutrition and pleasure lightly.

LOL!Right on.

This is more or less of an illusion. You certainly don't have to have sex as much as you need to eat, but that does not make them different. Just as not having to eat as much as you need to breathe does not make them different.In reality you do need sex to maintain some standard of health. In men and women, bodies will eventually force the sexual response, usually during sleep, if it does not happen at any other time. That is inclusive of running through sexual response "diagnostics" every night anyway.It is true that a person can be an ascetic and live, but that is also true regarding food. Humans can survive on very little and there is mounting evidence that calorie starvation can actually extend life... I saw an interesting doc on that, but kept wondering what's the point of living if you constantly feel half starved.There have been studies recently showing that early pregnancy (early relative to our culture) helps stave off breast cancer, and that at the very least frequent masturbation (or any sexual activity) can help reduce heart attacks and prostate cancer.Our bodies really are built to eat, sleep, and screw. Like I said, to me this isn't that much of a difference, especially when eating delicious food is not a requirement for living, and neither is eating much beyond starvation level. Thanks and don't let my little additional points make it appear as if I am trying to knock everything you were saying. I thought you've been making good points.You know I've even been quoting you to my gf recently about food (the difference between hunger and appetite).

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Hey, if we're not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made out of meat?

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Crash, both Zhimbo and I just love this response.Completely elegant, kinda dumb, but incredibly wise, all at once.

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Thanks and don't let my little additional points make it appear as if I am trying to knock everything you were saying. I thought you've been making good points.

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Thanks, my dear holmes.A compliment of my points from you is worth 10 from most others.

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You know I've even been quoting you to my gf recently about food (the difference between hunger and appetite).

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Would you be doing this as part of foreplay or afterglow talk?

In other words, Crashfrog to a "T", babe. I wish I could take credit, though. Just some phrase I heard from some renny rats, one time. (You know, ren folk? Renaissance Festival enthusiasts?)

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In other words, Crashfrog to a "T", babe.

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Tru nuff, playa.

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I wish I could take credit, though. Just some phrase I heard from some renny rats, one time. (You know, ren folk? Renaissance Festival enthusiasts?)

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Yeah, I've heard it before, too.Renny rats? I like it. I always referred to them as "SCA folk."

Yeah, they're fond of appending monikers like that to themselves, like "Fair folk" (kind of a riff on names for elves, etc). "Renny rats" was something I just sort of came up with when I wrote the post. Man, but you gotta love ren fest food, don't ya? I love to sit down with a huge turkey drummie and a big ol' mug of beer. Which is probably why I love this T-Shirt so much:Well, had my turkey leg and a mug-o'-ale. Who's up for some wenching?

If you know how to cook a few things well, you'll probably be able to handle most anything you find in a recipe book. You should be confident enough in cooking those things that you can do it from memory and can pretty much eyeball everything. That doesn't mean you won't measure anything, especially when going off of a recipe, but you know what is inside.A good teriyaki marinade:1/2 measure of teriyaki sauce
1/4 measure soy sauce
1/8 measure Worcestershire sauce
1/8 measure olive oil
As much garlic as you likeDifferent foods marinate at different rates but most meats could stand a few hours. If you're doing eggplant or some other vegetation, it won't need as long.My father's porkchops:Get a good breadcrumb pile for breading. Whisk an egg and dip the chops in the egg and then the breadcrumbs. Fry in a medium-hot skillet just for a minute in order to get the breading to cohere. Then put in a glass pan, don't overlap...if you need more pans, use more...in a 400-degree oven for 25-30 minutes. While they're baking, fry what's left of the egg and give it to the dog. I thought one might be able to substitute a cat, but my cat apparently didn't like greasy, garlicky scrambled eggs.Simple dip:6 oz can of tuna fish
8 oz of softened cream cheese
8 oz of sour creamBlend thoroughly and add a dash of Worcestershire sauce and lemon juice if you like.Guacamole:2 avocados
1 tomato, seeded, chopped fine
Scallions, chopped fine
Garlic, mincedMash the avocado and mix in the tomato, scallions, and garlic. Start adding chili powder, coriander, and salt until its hot enough, smoky enough, and salty enough. This is a perfect recipe to help you train your taste buds to determine what it needs when "it needs something." There's a good chance it's salt (and this was the first recipe where I was able to realize "it needs salt"), but the distinction between the spiciness and smokiness is an interesting one to notice.OK...now I'm hungry.

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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Coriander? That's interesting. I usually use chipotle/ancho, cumin, onion salt, and lime.Chipotle and ancho are the must-have chilies. If you're into the smoky/spicy thing, as I am, I suspect you'll find these to be awesome additions to your spice toolbox.I get my spices from Penzey's Spices, a supplier out of Wisconsin, but thanks to the internet, you can order and they ship everywhere. HomePage | PenzeysSpice thoughts from others? I'm a big spice fan.

The recipe sounds easy enough, schraf, but I wonder about the substitution of coffee for espresso. I've read that espresso is essential to good tiramisu. Do you think it might be a good idea to double the amount of coffee (in brewing) that I would ordinarily use?

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I've been a customer of Penzey's for over a decade. I can even remember when their catalogs were just black and white on newsprint, with drawings instead of photographs.Here's a search results page which includes some of the more unusual spices we sell through our mail order business: cool spicesI love the Urfa chile flakes beyond all reason.

Yes, that would be a good idea. Make VERY strong coffee and it should work.Alternatively, you could see if your local coffeehouse would give you a discount if you purchased several double espresso (enough to make the recipe with).

I'm more of a pickle girl, myself.