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true dat Mike...Jesus also took himself out of the picture and replaced himself with a way and a truth and a life as an example to be followed and strived for.His intention was not to be worshipped and idolised but that the process by which one can pass unto the Father be known to everyoneBTW string theory with it's extra dimensions could account for the unknown yet ever present domain of consciousness and even heaven..don't you think ???

yes. mormons believe that also. their official name is "the church of JESUS CHRIST of latter day saints"

then why does he address god the father as a separaten entity in the garden of gethsemane?simply put, whether or not jesus was god, he was also made in the image of god, being part human. worshipping any image of god is idolatry. yes, well, your beliefs offend mine. i think you're a member of a cult. how do you like that? turnabout is, afterall, fair play.

jesus was made in the image of god. any worship of any image of god or anything else is strictly forbidden. it's idolatry, qed. remember the golden calf? that was supposed to be god too. revelation mixes a lot of imagery up, because it's not really talking about what you think it's talking about. it for instance combines satan, leviathan, and devils into one supreme evil. it's probably talking about the emporer of rome, in all actuality. simply put, john is blasphemous. no man may claim to be god. jesus walks around full of himself and saying how he is god and people should follow and worship him, and this simply does not match with anything jesus said in any of the other gospels, including the apocryphal ones. i, and a few others i've talked to, do not believe john to be a factual portrayal of his words, but more of a propaganda pamphelet telling you about jesus.in the other gospels, jesus directs attention to the father, and calls himself "the son of man" not "the son of god" and NEVER "god." the second two were seen as blasphemy in his day, and the last certainly would have been. on top of that, jesus demonstrates clear separation from god. gethsemane is good evidence of this.jesus was not the sort to get around on technicalities. he came as an example, and running around saying you're god does not demonstrate the humble qualities he sought to teach. saying you're god is a sin, blasphemy. it's not ok, even you believe he is god. it's still a sin, and the jesus portrayed in john is a sinner and a hypocrite and a blasphemer, rightly punished by death.so i ignore john entirely.This message has been edited by Arachnophilia, 07-22-2004 01:40 AM

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BTW string theory with it's extra dimensions could account for the unknown yet ever present domain of consciousness and even heaven..don't you think ???

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Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, but I doubt it. The hypothesis/idea of extra dimensions came out of unusual results dealing with gravity and other forces. Yes, I suppose it's possible, but then again, what isn't? I'm actually about to read Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe", which deals with this exact subject. Perhaps I'll start a thread about it once I finish it.

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The measure for cults is simple. Whenever Christ is not the center of the religion, it is a cult.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!So, as long as someone who starves you, doesn't let you sleep, and cuts you off from all contact with family and friends but has Christ as the center of their religion, it isn't a cult?LOLOLOLOL!!!The following is a link to a group that was recently in the news when one of it's followers starved her infant to death. They grew out of a Christian Bible study group.Attleboro Cult (The Body) - religious cults, sects and movements

Insert Halle Berry for Christ and you have Hally Berry.
There is no substitute for Christ. He is the substitute, became it when he accepted our sins as his and laid down his life.The many religions across the world have no Christ to offer. No one else has him.
Mohammed is dead and his tomb is with us. Christ's tomb is empty.

without Christ, nothing. Doesn't mean his gesture was not 'nice'.
This is where the RCC went awry. Put the money into the box, and some soul will spring from hellfire. then there are those who think they can buy their way into heaven and the more they give the bigger their reward. Their reward is on this earth.

without Christ, nothing. Doesn't mean his gesture was not 'nice'.
This is where the RCC went awry. Put the money into the box, and some soul will spring from hellfire. then there are those who think they can buy their way into heaven and the more they give the bigger their reward. Their reward is on this earth.

That is why it is called 'CHRISTIANITY', eh?

To shorten time of study, focus on what each religion promises. Then choose the best promise and premise, for that matter.

Well, kinda logical considering he's god, isn't it. Do you have prove that Mohammed is in his grave. We know where he got buried, but he might have been taken to heaven immediately after he was buried.
We don't have irrefutible evidence where his tomb is either. This makes it rather hard to check.
But even if we did find his grave, he'd still be in it, since he is everywhere Lucy

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"Death & Dead" were found 827 times in 751 verses.Thats a Whole Lotta Suffering

Then the Invisible Pink Unicorn wins, hands (hooves?) down! An eternal beach party with ham-and-pineapple pizza! Hallelujah!

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To shorten time of study, focus on what each religion promises. Then choose the best promise and premise, for that matter.

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Mormonism promises that I will be a lesser diety.Buddhism promises Enlightenment.Islam promises a Paradise.Hinduism promises Reincarnation and Nirvana.Scientology promises that I will have Telekinesis.They all sound pretty good to me.

Christ is everywhere except in his tomb. He left that because he was able to leave it.
Mohammed was a man. A very bad man. He was a child molester, a plagiarizer, a liar and some other things you'll find by checking. I am amazed with muslims, utter silence in the face of such accusations, utter silence as to the horrors proposed in the quoran and now happening. Speak up, Islam, why do you want to kill the infidel?