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Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 237 (446115)
01-04-2008 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by DrJones*
01-04-2008 9:37 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
DJ writes:
Yes cause the US congress, senate and Supreme Court are also composed of white and jew hating black Muslims. Lord know how the black man is always keeping whitey down.
As Congressman he was one of many. As president he would be 1/3 of the political power base; big difference.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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DrJones*
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Message 17 of 237 (446122)
01-04-2008 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 10:04 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
As president he would be 1/3 of the political power base; big difference
And there would be nobody in the other 2 branchs who'd be willing and able to oppose him? Do you have any idea how your government works?

Live every week like it's Shark Week!
Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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Buzsaw
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Message 18 of 237 (446127)
01-04-2008 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by macaroniandcheese
01-04-2008 9:01 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
brena writes:
that's a big, fat if. which of course depends on this idea that they are as you claim anyways.
Most is not a big if. Most of the information I have posted if not all can be verified, some of which can be found in his own book. In the last Obama thread I cited reliable links.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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jar
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Message 19 of 237 (446130)
01-04-2008 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 10:15 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
In the last Obama thread I cited reliable links.
Bullshit. You posted allegation and innuendo.

Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 20 of 237 (446140)
01-04-2008 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 10:15 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
whatever you say.

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nwr
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Message 21 of 237 (446157)
01-04-2008 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 10:01 PM


NWR, if what I've posted is nothing but smear, questioning it's credibility, you need to explain why it is nothing but smear.
You posted innuendo, which has no purpose except to persuade people to have false ideas about Obama.

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Buzsaw
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Message 22 of 237 (446300)
01-05-2008 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by nwr
01-04-2008 11:20 PM


Citing Alleged Inuendos
It behooves you then to cite the alleged inuendos and refute them. That's how it works according to EvC's guidelines.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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jar
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Message 23 of 237 (446306)
01-05-2008 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Buzsaw
01-05-2008 3:17 PM


Innuendo.
Buz writes:
If Obama thinks like his mentor pastor who likes The Nation Of Islam which wants a nation of and by black extremist racists, hating whites and Jews, what has Obama got in mind for whites down the line?? That's the question and the risk in electing such a person.
You NEVER presented any evidence that either Obama or his "mentor" "wants a nation of and by black extremist racists, hating whites and Jews".
All you do is post smear and innuendo Buz and not even direct innuendo Buz, you imply that Obama believe like the Pastor at his church and that the Pastor believes like Farrakhan without EVER presenting any evidence. How totally dishonest can you be?

Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

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nwr
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Message 24 of 237 (446310)
01-05-2008 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Buzsaw
01-05-2008 3:17 PM


Re: Citing Alleged Inuendos
It behooves you then to cite the alleged inuendos and refute them. That's how it works according to EvC's guidelines.
The innuendo is right there in your Message 9 in this thread. No citation is strictly necessary, since the evidence is already before us.
There is nothing to refute, because you presented only innuendo, but no factual claims. Thats what makes innuendo so nasty. You attack somebody in a way that is difficult to refute. It cannot be refuted because you never actually expressed any untruths. You just said things in ways that most readers would infer false conclusions.
I'll ask you again - when did Christianity repeal the golden rule?

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Peal
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Message 25 of 237 (446329)
01-05-2008 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 8:58 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
If Obama thinks like his mentor pastor who likes The Nation Of Islam which wants a nation of and by black extremist racists, hating whites and Jews, what has Obama got in mind for whites down the line?? That's the question and the risk in electing such a person.
This is just a preview of what the republican slime machine will do to Obama if he is nominated. First the race issue, like Ford in Tennessee. That will run for awhile and second will come the Islamic issue. After the republican swift boating, only blacks and those of the Islamic faith will vote for him. For the democratic presidential bit, this would be a recipe for disaster.

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nwr
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Message 26 of 237 (446333)
01-05-2008 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Peal
01-05-2008 5:42 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
This is just a preview of what the republican slime machine will do to Obama if he is nominated.
I think they can't actually hurt Obama all that badly. They will shoot themselves in the foot if they try. The public is in no mood for those tactics, and are pretty determined to elect a Democrat anyway. And Obama seems to have the skills to deflect that sort of attack.
They will go after Hillary just as strongly if she is the nominee. And I think she may have a harder time dealing with it than Obama.
Anyway, the dems should choose their nominee based on what they want, rather than on fear of what the republicans will do.

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obvious Child
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Message 27 of 237 (446351)
01-05-2008 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Peal
01-05-2008 5:42 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
Maybe. Buz isn't necessarily a good indicator of Republican Strategy.
Pay attention to the ads against Huckabee. That will set the tone for what will hit the democratic nomination. And I agree with NWR that the public is sick and tired of those tactics. But pay attention to how the other Republicans attack Huckabee.

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obvious Child
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Message 28 of 237 (446352)
01-05-2008 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by DrJones*
01-04-2008 10:10 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
quote:
Do you have any idea how your government works?
I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question. And I wouldn't be surprised to find out that more Canadians understand how the US government works then US citizens.

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DrJones*
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Message 29 of 237 (446362)
01-05-2008 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by obvious Child
01-05-2008 8:34 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question
Not really, Buz seems to be under the impression that the President is a king who rules by decree.

Live every week like it's Shark Week!
Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 30 of 237 (446382)
01-06-2008 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by macaroniandcheese
01-04-2008 5:27 PM


Re: Bashing Huckabee
what exactly does huckabee have to offer black people? specifically, what solutions does huckabee have for racial equality issues, or urban development problems, or underclass wage issues, or education access? what does huckabee have to help black people?
It sounds more like you are bashing black people, speaking about them as if they were inferior beings who need pampering. Obviously, what ever Huckabee would be directly doing for all American people would be the same as doing something indirectly for "black people."
Is underclass wage issues a uniquely "black issue?" Is education access a uniquely "black" issue? Is an urban development problem a uniquely "black" issue?
Holy cow, why don't you just come out and say that black people are stupid, why don't you, who will only make it in society if you walk them through life?
This sure is awfully condescending really...
This is precisely the kind of counter-productive, liberal mindset that claims to be out for the greater interest of black people, all the while unwittingly offending them in the process. Sure, their heart is in the right place, but they totally keep the black man shackled to a plantation mentality.
Does Huckabee need to cater specifically to a demographic, or is catering to a demographic ultimately devisive, by compartmentalizing people in to quaint little categories.

“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

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