The New Neo-Nazi's

You don't speak for Jews, and I could say it dehumanizes Jews to separate them from the Israeli government.Why don't you evidence this nonsense Dan - practice what you preach.The point is that you are mouthing subjective opinion under the guise of race sensitivity police patrol. Dan the comic moonlights as speech police....under investigation for abusing power....stay tuned.....

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I have not accused you of anti-semitism, nor have I threatened you. I have pointed out that you are making comments which are both dehumanizing to Jews, and fallacious, and that I would like you to stop using such arguments.
______________________________________________________________________such as.....prove it......You have already dehumanized Jews by defending skinheads dressed in education and suits.I doubt you are a Jew or have any Jewish blood in you.It should make no difference anyway.You have diverted the discussion with fraud. I will keep doing what I have been doing so make your move.

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I could say it dehumanizes Jews to separate them from the Israeli government.

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You could say it, sure. You'd have a Hell of a time backing it up, but you could say it. Not that I think you'd try to back it up, anyway.

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Why don't you evidence this nonsense Dan - practice what you preach.

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You've had the logic laid out for you twice now, in increasingly simple terms. Any simpler, and I'm gonna need some handpuppets. Instead of refuting that logic, you've spat back a bunch of "I know you are, but what am I"s.And in the meantime, the remainder of the previous post goes unaddressed...

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"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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such as.....

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See above.

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You have already dehumanized Jews by defending skinheads dressed in education and suits.

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Oh, this is just getting sad.I can't defend anyone if you steadfastly refuse to point out specifically who and what you're arguing against.

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I doubt you are a Jew or have any Jewish blood in you.

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Then somebody better have a pretty damn good explaination for my wang, NOW. It's missing a big hunk of skin.All that Bar Mitzvah training was pretty much a waste, too...

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"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

WT, That educated people can & do do shitty things cannot be argued against, but the point still stands, you haven't shown that they show the same proclivity to do so as the non-educated.You need to show on a per capita basis that educated people are as anti-semitic as the non-educated. If you can't do this you have no point to make. What you have is an unsupported opinion.Mark[This message has been edited by mark24, 04-30-2004]

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"Physical Reality of Matchette’s EVOLUTIONARY zero-atom-unit in a transcendental c/e illusion" - Brad McFall

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That educated people can & do do shitty things cannot be argued against, but the point still stands, you haven't shown that they show the same proclivity to do so as the non-educated.

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That doesn't actually seem to be WT's argument. Maybe I am misrepresenting it, but it seems to be simply that higher education does not lead to morality. It isn't that higher education leads to evil, just that it doesn't lead to good. Unless all university professors are saints, this seems to be a true statement.However, I am not sure why this point needed to be made, or who it needed to be made to. I haven't heard anyone say otherwise before.

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The relevance of this link evidences that there is a sizable body of professors who are vehemently against Israel.

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On the contrary, there is a sizable body of professors who are taking a stand against the violent disposession of a large ethnic group by a more powerful and organized group.

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Then I will add, how many amongst these intellectuals do you think make excuses for Palestinian terror ?

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It is no stretch to assume some.

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It is a stretch to assume anything. I would sign that petition in a heartbeat and I am horrified by the violence on BOTH sides. Given the size of the group, it is possible that there are a few crackpots who are detached from reality enough to theorize their way into making excuses for suicide attacks on civilians. If you want to prove anything from that, you'd need to document the existence of one of them. Then you could start arguing for those similarities you find so compelling.

Cynic,Then I have misunderstood & apologise.Mark

The totality of the links I have provided do evidence what I was asked. These links are contained in two separate posts.

Dan, if you care to, lets start over.Create a post that lists your main points and I will answer ?

It is quite clear in the forum rules that I am not responsible for knowing the content of all the web sites you can link to. Especially those written by frothing-at-the-mouth political partisans with such an extremist agenda that I can hardly read the facts through their emotional language.Now give me a name and a balanced set of information that says that person encourages suicide bombings.

I will not hold your hand, I will not continue to jump through hoops.
I could easily provide what you ask from the links already posted.What you're really saying is that there is no such thing as university professors who justify suicide bombings. This opinion is tantamount to persons who hold that the Holocaust never happened.I am really only interested in debating with persons who recognize the fact that these justifications do exist, are widespread and prevalent across the university landscapes of America and Europe.Post number 53 in this topic has the member RECOGNIZING a rationale for terrorism aka cold blooded murder. This "view" is common, and it is the standard excuse made for Palestinian suicide bombings. If a average anonymous person parrrots what is routinely found in every media outlet then this is self evident that the whitewash exists and was originated and legitimized by a status quo that includes the culprits I am going after. IF my stinging indictment wasn't about a connection to Nazi's then you or anyone else would not be opposed.

WT,I would never presume to speak for loudmouth, but since I stated sentiments very similar to his in my post # 48 I feel I can post a reply to your latest offering.I categorically state that I don't condone any acts of terrorism. I am fairly certain that loudmouth would agree.What I think we were both saying, and he can certainly modify this if he feels I am misrepresenting his position, is that while we don't condone the terrorism, we understand that they feel this in the only way they can fight back at this time.If the Palestinians had been propped up with matching billions and billions of dollars in foreign aid over the years, I am quite sure that it would be tanks fighting against tanks, and jets fighting against jets over there in strictly military battles. But the fact is, only the one side has been supported, making the other side fight back in any way they can. In some ways, this one-sided support is a contributing cause of non-military fighting.Perhaps giving a few billions of dollars to the Palestinians would let them fight militarily, instead of in the only way they can, with terrorism.I think some very poor judgement has been used in the mid-East.Verzem

WTNo one has said that there are not professors who justify suicide bombings.There are also professors that justify killing innocent civilians with rockets from a helicopter.There are even professors that justify both, and ones that condemn both.What's your point?Is killing with high tech devices somehow more moral than killing with low tech devices?And you have yet to show ANY correlation or evidence of any Neo-Nazis either on or off campus.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

My point is in post number 1.