Message 190 of 276
05-29-2004 07:40 PM
Re: Still looking for specifics.
Yes, I like this verse.
But for Adam [8] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [9] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [10] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman, [11] '
for she was taken out of man."
24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
This cleary shows Gods intention for man to be with woman, and be united as one.
Even though at the begining of this thread, it was said not to mention
Leviticus, that scripture pretty much sums it up. I see no need for any others.
But here is some more,
Judges
20 "You are welcome at my house," the old man said. "Let me supply whatever you need. Only don't spend the night in the square." 21 So he took him into his house and fed his donkeys. After they had washed their feet, they had something to eat and drink.
22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him."
23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing."
Disgraceful and vile.
We won't mention how many times the New testament mentions not to be sexually immoral.
That would include man with man, and woman with woman according to the OT by which the New testament was based on.
Romans
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Thou shall not commit adultry.
Since man and woman were created to be as one, adultry could only be if man left woman, or woman left man.
Webster defines adultry as:
Main Entry: adultery
Pronunciation: &-'d&l-t(&-)rE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -teries
Etymology: Middle English, alteration of avoutrie, from Middle French, from Latin adulterium, from adulter adulterer, back-formation from adulterare
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery
Jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
We all know what happened there.
1 Corinthians 6
8Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I am by no means a bible expert, but this is what I came up with. I would have to conclude that it is against God according to the bible.
I already gave that explaination.
I can't help it if you don't read your own threads.
And here are some more exapmles of the bible speaking against sexual immorality. I already proved that it is sexually immoral to be gay.
Numbers 25:1
While Israel was staying in Shittim, the men began to indulge in sexual immorality with Moabite women,
(Whole Chapter: Numbers 25 In context: Numbers 25:1-2)
Matthew 15:19
For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 15 In context: Matthew 15:18-20)
Mark 7:21
For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery,
(Whole Chapter: Mark 7 In context: Mark 7:20-22)
Acts 15:20
Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
(Whole Chapter: Acts 15 In context: Acts 15:19-21)
Acts 15:29
You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.
(Whole Chapter: Acts 15 In context: Acts 15:28-30)
Acts 21:25
As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality."
(Whole Chapter: Acts 21 In context: Acts 21:24-26)
Romans 13:13
Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.
(Whole Chapter: Romans 13 In context: Romans 13:12-14)
1 Corinthians 5:1
It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife.
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 5 In context: 1 Corinthians 5:1-2)
1 Corinthians 5:9
I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 5 In context: 1 Corinthians 5:8-10)
1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 5 In context: 1 Corinthians 5:10-12)
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 6 In context: 1 Corinthians 6:8-10)
1 Corinthians 6:12
"Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything.
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 6 In context: 1 Corinthians 6:11-13)
1 Corinthians 6:13
"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 6 In context: 1 Corinthians 6:12-14)
1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 6 In context: 1 Corinthians 6:17-19)
1 Corinthians 10:8
We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twentythree thousand of them died.
(Whole Chapter: 1 Corinthians 10 In context: 1 Corinthians 10:7-9)
Galatians 5:19
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
(Whole Chapter: Galatians 5 In context: Galatians 5:18-20)
Ephesians 5:3
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.
(Whole Chapter: Ephesians 5 In context: Ephesians 5:2-4)
Colossians 3:5
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
(Whole Chapter: Colossians 3 In context: Colossians 3:4-6)
1 Thessalonians 4:3
It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality;
(Whole Chapter: 1 Thessalonians 4 In context: 1 Thessalonians 4:2-4)
Hebrews 12:16
See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son.
(Whole Chapter: Hebrews 12 In context: Hebrews 12:15-17)
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
(Whole Chapter: Hebrews 13 In context: Hebrews 13:3-5)
Jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
(Whole Chapter: Jude 1 In context: Jude 1:6-8)
Revelation 2:14
Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: You have people there who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality.
(Whole Chapter: Revelation 2 In context: Revelation 2:13-15)
Revelation 2:20
Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.
(Whole Chapter: Revelation 2 In context: Revelation 2:19-21)
Revelation 9:21
Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts.
(Whole Chapter: Revelation 9 In context: Revelation 9:20-22)
What more do you want?
If it says in the law books that it is illegal to go through a stop sign without stopping only once, is it in fact illegal to go through a stop sign without stopping?
Why would you need anything more than leviticus to tell you its against God to be gay. Its not what he created us for period.
As a matter of fact, I am going to propse a new topic. I want one good reason why I should accept being gay as ok.
*Disclaimer for the under privelaged, I do not hate gay people, I only do not agree with the act of being gay.*
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