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subbie
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Message 46 of 229 (616150)
05-19-2011 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by anglagard
05-19-2011 10:15 PM


Re: Lost in Translation
Pennies? Shillings? What piss poor translation of the Bible are you using?
I'm pretty sure it's "Babble for Dummies," and it's still over his head.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Theodoric
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Message 47 of 229 (616151)
05-19-2011 10:26 PM
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05-19-2011 10:15 PM


Re: Lost in Translation
denarius, shilling it's all the same ain't it.
Come on, you can't expect people to know what the actual words mean do you?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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bluescat48
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Message 48 of 229 (616154)
05-19-2011 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Theodoric
05-19-2011 1:13 PM


What would that do add 30-40more? Let's put it this way, every 70 to 80% "christ-like" Christian I have ever met, is already dead.
Edited by bluescat48, : No reason given.
Edited by bluescat48, : oops hit the first edit too fast.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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anglagard
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Message 49 of 229 (616159)
05-20-2011 12:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by fearandloathing
05-18-2011 3:20 PM


Who Gets to be First?
According to my understanding of Canning, he states that each earthquake and general disaster will occur according to time zone. Therefore I guess each time zone, beginning with the western Pacific can post their trials and tribulations first.
Now that does allow for some equality as each time zone can post in sequence. Therefore I believe it is most important that both the innocent New Zealand and guilty Australia (of sticking the US with Ham and Murdoch) be the first to either reassure or warn the rest of the world of the validity of yet another false prophet.
Normally I would ask the Samoans, but given their propensity to both a natural mellowness and become contenders in Sumo wrestling world tournaments, I felt it unnecessary to ask such admirable people to even be remotely involved in such silliness.
So the question again remains, does god use GMT or the meridian, or according to some locals around these parts, CMT?
{ABE} we used to celebrate things like the harmonic convergence (May 82) and the end of the world (around August 87) which were quite memorable occasions according to most other participants. However at 53, married with child, stuck in Big Spring 330 miles from San Lorenzo Canyon, well, might get a bottle of Fraxinet and argue with the wife over who is better, Altman or Kieslowski{/ABE}
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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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Message 50 of 229 (616161)
05-20-2011 12:33 AM
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05-20-2011 12:24 AM


Re: Who Gets to be First?
Actually, think about it. Instead of earthquake, we get a super flare inside our own solar system. The parts of the Earth that are affected won't be able to communicate with other parts. We'll just see total communication blackouts from other parts of the Earth.

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Theodoric
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Message 51 of 229 (616189)
05-20-2011 8:27 AM
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05-19-2011 10:52 PM


At best
I think 50 people total world wide at best if the bar is set at 70% "Christ like".
ABE
So if the Rapture did happen, would we know?
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 52 of 229 (616190)
05-20-2011 8:41 AM
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05-20-2011 8:27 AM


Re: At best
I doubt it since more than 50 people die each day anyway.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 53 of 229 (616193)
05-20-2011 9:00 AM


False profits
Hi everyone, been awhile. Taz, hitch hikers guide to the galaxy was my favorite book growing up. I passed out after reading it.
You shouldn't look at the events taking place today as a sign that there is no God. If anything, this idiot Harold Camping just proves what the bible teaches us, that there will be many false profits. If you truly study the bible, it teaches us that everyday is a judgement day of sorts, and that everything we do in life will be judged. People are not saved once, they are saved every minute of every day.
Any fool who tries to predict judgement day can't be reading the bible.
Mark 13
The Day and Hour Unknown
32 But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert[e]! You do not know when that time will come. 34 It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.
35 Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come backwhether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. 36 If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. 37 What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’
Acts 1
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?
7 He said to them: It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.
Jeremiah 14:14-15 (New International Version)
14 Then the LORD said to me, The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries[a] and the delusions of their own minds. 15 Therefore this is what the LORD says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not send them, yet they are saying, ‘No sword or famine will touch this land.’ Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.
If you want to try and follow Jesus, then you should live your life like He was coming tomorrow, or a thousand years from tomorrow. It really doesn't matter. We don't need people like Harold Camping to scare us into believing in God. Jesus opened the door for us to have the Holy Spirit, and each one of us has a direct hotline to God, and can judge right from wrong on our own and be judged accordingly. Why would I live my whole life one way then wait to the last second to repent?
Now let's see if after tomorrow passes and NOTHING happens if the world will then consider Harold Camping a false profit.

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Theodoric
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Message 54 of 229 (616196)
05-20-2011 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by riVeRraT
05-20-2011 9:00 AM


Re: False profits
If you want anyone to take your post seriously you might want to spell Prophet correctly.
As people are making money on this your spelling is kinda humorous.
Also, you out of context quotes mean nothing and are worthless.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 55 of 229 (616197)
05-20-2011 9:10 AM
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05-20-2011 9:00 AM


double post
22 month old helping on computer
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 56 of 229 (616200)
05-20-2011 9:15 AM
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05-20-2011 9:10 AM


Re: False profits
Theodoric writes:
If you want anyone to take your post seriously you might want to spell Prophet correctly.
As people are making money on this your spelling is kinda humorous.
Also, you out of context quotes mean nothing and are worthless.
He did spell it properly. It is all about profit. In fact, almost all Christian Televangelism seems to be about profit.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Theodoric
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Message 57 of 229 (616201)
05-20-2011 9:28 AM
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05-20-2011 9:15 AM


Re: False profits
Yes, I agree. But I don't think Riverrat is aware of that.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 58 of 229 (616202)
05-20-2011 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by anglagard
05-19-2011 10:15 PM


Re: Translation Misgivings.
anglagard writes:
Pennies? Shillings? What piss poor translation of the Bible are you using?
Revelation 6:6 ASV
American Standard Version
quote:
And I heard as it were a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, A measure of wheat for a shilling, and three measures of barley for a shilling; and the oil and the wine hurt thou not.
anglagard writes:
Penny - God's word, KJVA, ASV, Basic English, Douay, Darby-Rheims, ERV, Webster's.
ASV shouldn't be in your penny list.
anglagard writes:
Shilling - Weymouth.
ASV=shilling, as per Buz's post.
anglagard writes:
So a while back, you and one other actually had the guts to post which version of the Bible was infallible when I asked directly - you stated the KJV. However by quoting the Bible here it appears you are using the Weymouth, what gives?
Baloney! In my 8 years sojourn here at EvC, I've never touted the KJV. I most always use the ASV. All versions have some errors, usually minor and insignificant, according to the manuscript interlinears. The ASV is the nearest equivalent to the Alexandrian Text was derived from the oldest copies.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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riVeRraT
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Message 59 of 229 (616203)
05-20-2011 9:37 AM
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05-20-2011 9:15 AM


Re: False profits
jar writes:
Theodoric writes:
If you want anyone to take your post seriously you might want to spell Prophet correctly.
As people are making money on this your spelling is kinda humorous.
Also, you out of context quotes mean nothing and are worthless.
He did spell it properly. It is all about profit. In fact, almost all Christian Televangelism seems to be about profit.
Where's the dam like button?
Yes Theodoric, I meant profit, it was a pun.

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Theodoric
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Message 60 of 229 (616204)
05-20-2011 9:46 AM
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05-20-2011 9:37 AM


Re: False profits
Sorry for missing the pun.
Guess I have been dealing with Buz and ICANT too much latley
Please carry on
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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