Huckabee

At least he is openly a bigot and is honest about his desire to mandate ignorance and a less than 3^rd. world status for the US.The one bright spot is that Reagan, Bush and Bush have so completely destroyed the basics of the US that it is likely whoever is elected will only watch over the final dissolution of the US.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

I actually hope that Huckabee does get the Republican nomination. That would pretty much prove to the country and the world once and for all that the Republican party is a bunch of insane nutfucks.

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He fought for the South for no reason that he could now recall, other than the same one all men fought for: because he'd been a damn fool. -- Garth Ennis

do you think he'll fight for a constitutional amendment to ban divorce?Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

I don't quite know why, but this made me giggle like a Japanese schoolgirl.In fairness, whoever gets elected I don't think you're all entirely buggered. Money talks, and as long as the US is a profitable place I'm fairly sure the big businessmen over there won't let everything go to hell.Although... if you get another religious nutter, I invite any liberal Americans to c'mon over to Ireland. We're far more relaxed and a lot more progressive than a predominantly Catholic country should be.

is birth control legal yet?

you have strange ideas about what the founding fathers thought, that don't seem based on anything they wrote. uh, obama's a rather outspoken christian. there's a whole thread on that here, i'm not sure how you missed it. again you seem to be creating positions for other people that have no basis in the things they actually said.and what, exactly, is the problem with being muslim or pro-black?

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gosh, i hope so. remember, jesus said it was adultery, and the punishment for adultery is death. oh, and it should be retroactive, too -- put rudy on death row. that'd be fun.we'll see how long the country stands for that.

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seriously. jesus never talked about gays, but he did talk about adultery and divorce.

He may since he states that easy divorce is one of the causes for the loss of family values in our society.Strange, I thought that if a husband avidly supported family values, he would try to maintain an excellent relationship with his family so a divorce is not likely. I don't see how divorce causes a decrease in "family values" as much as it is an indicator of said decrease.I would say that it is easy divorce that makes keeping a marriage together something you have to work at instead of something that is assumed. Edited by LinearAq, : changed a negative to a positive

careful, you're starting to sound like me on abortion

well, there is an argument out there that the aramaic raca (look that one up) is roughly equivalent to "homo." dunno how true that is.but yeah. how about the real issues jesus talked about for a change.Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given.

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oh, no, you just have to think a little harder. try putting the cart before the horse, thinking backwards a little. if we ban divorce, family values will go up. afterall, they must be, because no one will be getting divorced. see? that was easy.

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I still can't believe Obama and Huckabee came out as the winners along with 3 other republicans. I mean... how the hell did corn vote when we're in the middle of a winter?

Actually, I believe respect for "family values" hasn't really changed in the last century. The changes in the law to make divorce easier and less adverse social stigma in being divorced have combined to uncover the hidden disdain for family values.People stayed together because it was required by legal/social pressure even though hated each other.

The Nation of Islam/Black Muslim organization is openly racist, openly anti-white, anti Semitic and pressing for a black Islamic nation in America. They are militant and radical, so much so that even many foreign Muslims don't want to identify with them being it would alarm the people here as to the real nature of fundamentalist Islam. They are becoming a significant power among American blacks, many who come from the ghettos and who are discharged from prisons where the Nation of Islam ministers actively among the black inmates.It's far more risky for America to be electing a president who's mentor is a close associate with Louis Farrakan and the militant radical Nation of Islam than evangelical former Governor Huckabee. Is Obama's black Christian church parishoners who's pastor is his mentor being indoctrinated into the radicalism of the Nation of Islam? What's the strange relationship between his pastor and the Nation of Islam about?Perhaps a thread on the Nation of Islam is in order relative to the Obama connection significance so as not to drift off topic here.

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