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Author | Topic: General discussion of moderation procedures - Part 7 | |||||||||||||||||||||
iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Active engagment has IMHO, been somewhat less than forthcoming. The gay abandon with which discussion has been generally entered in upon (in this posters experience) has been all but mute in Showcase.
One of Johns demands (and it seems a reasonable one to me) is to have a persons identity revealed. Bye Bye PK...Hello...?
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
First of all even the peer-reviewed journals have a pecking order (which your academic insituation will take in account when they assess your publication record and so will places when you apply for a job). I see a vicious circle coming up here. There is thus no means by which one can circumvent the establishment (if one exists) and no way to show there is no establishment. Hmmm
The second important element is the amounts of cititations your papers get - if nobody cites you - well generally there is a reason for that. Which could vary depending on all sorts of things, nothing of which has to do with the science involved.
As for fear - you have to remember that JAD has been knocking around and been banned from virtually every significant evolution-type forum going and here a number of times Define 'significant' in some non self-fulfilling prophecy manner. I'm sure some of the lumninaries here have debated him in the past. Neither do I cast aside their reticence - I have seen the worst of John. But the sheer silence from those once so authoritative on the issue in general forum strikes me as remarkable. Truly remarkable. Edited by AdminJar, : not a discussion thread
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
This is for a discussion of moderating procedures. Unless you have something related to moderating procedures, take it somewhere else.
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Sorry Jar. Fair point.
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CK Member (Idle past 4155 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
http://EvC Forum: Will I see Hitler in heaven? -->EvC Forum: Will I see Hitler in heaven?
Disgusting - surely such racist crap require an immediate and total ban. Edited by CK, : No reason given.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4987 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
On the advice of Admin NWR I have moved this message.
After thinking a lot about The Critic's message, I have come to the conclusion that his lifetime suspension is unwarranted. The fact that he is a complete dick shouldn't mean that he gets a ban for his beliefs. If he sincerely believes these reasons then why should he get banned just because it makes us normal folk feel physically sick? One of the aims of EvC is to educate people, and I think the Critic really needs to be educated, especially on his knowledge of the Bible. His views are repulsive yes, and I have heard this justified punishment of the Jews argument from Christians before (not many I must add), but just because we think he has gross beliefs, and who is to say he isn't accurate, we shouldn't ban him any more than Iano should be banned for being a bigot. It is just the way they are, incomprehensible stances for normal people to comprehend, but they are entitled to them. Brian.
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deerbreh Member (Idle past 2921 days) Posts: 882 Joined: |
After some reflection I think I must respectfully disagree with AdminNosy's judgement that my post # 6 in the fossil ID thread was off topic. At the time I held my counsel to see how the thread would progress but I was suspicious as to how things were going to go and my suspicians were confirmed. In light of the direction the thread has taken I think we would have been better off having Faith respond to my post and tell us how the Flood could have sorted the fossils in the geological column. Just my opinion.
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pink sasquatch Member (Idle past 6050 days) Posts: 1567 Joined: |
I have to second Brian's conclusion.
The Critic's statement, though not eloquent, was essentially that the Judeo-Christian God is a wrathful God. Are we now to ban everyone who has claimed such? What about all those who have made brazenly anti-homosexual comments? Bigotry is almost always the result of ignorance, ignorance that seems more likely to persist given exclusion from intelligent discussion.
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deerbreh Member (Idle past 2921 days) Posts: 882 Joined: |
I responded to a post by Faith on the Fossil ID thread and then I removed it because I realized it could be considered a response to an off topic post and we had a specific warning about that in the thread. Then I saw that Faith responded to the point in my post in her Admin mode. Somehow that doesn't seem kosher. Can someone clear this up for me? Is it proper for someone to respond to the point being made in a post in the Admin mode?
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CK Member (Idle past 4155 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Faith is currently suspended and accidently seems to have posted in admin mode.
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AdminFaith Inactive Member |
I had no intention of posting as admin. It occurred by default, and I was unable to get out of that mode, AND I wrote a note to that effect on the post.
The cause turns out to be that Faith is suspended for answering all the objections to my contention that the facts are hard to come by. Seems to me the whole lot of you should be suspended if I am. This is also in admin mode. Sorry, and I'm leaving now.
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
Yes, it was a simple mistake.
User Faith has been suspended. She did not see the suspension and so replied. Unfortunately one of the things about our Admin accounts is that they are linked to our regular account. That lets us do things like editing message for formating or to insert Off Topic notices without loging out and back in. In this case she had not seen the suspension notice and responded. The software simply used the Admin account. No harm, no foul.
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deerbreh Member (Idle past 2921 days) Posts: 882 Joined: |
Ok. Thanks AdminJar. No problem Faith.
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Admin Director Posts: 13038 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
Hi Faith,
Let me address your concerns and put your mind at rest.
Faith writes: The cause turns out to be that Faith is suspended for answering all the objections to my contention that the facts are hard to come by. Seems to me the whole lot of you should be suspended if I am. My actions were in this order:
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