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ringo
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Message 16 of 49 (410674)
07-16-2007 4:40 PM
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07-16-2007 4:07 PM


Re: Deus ex machina.
AnswersInGenitals writes:
I'm no bible expert, but I believe that having sex with a coin operated, video assisted, pneumatic-hydraulic contrivance is not listed as an abomination in the eyes of the lord (if you don't let your seed fall upon the ground).
Sorry, but I think that would still fall under the "your-body-is-a-temple" umbrella clause.

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Coragyps
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Message 17 of 49 (410681)
07-16-2007 5:25 PM
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07-16-2007 4:07 PM


Re: Deus ex machina.
Hmmmm. Ghastly's Ghastly Comic and the interactive tentacle-rape video game in the bar come to mind......

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Taz
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Message 18 of 49 (410706)
07-16-2007 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Jon
07-16-2007 1:55 PM


Re: Nobody ever told [him] it's the wrong way...
Jon writes:
When will you stop acting like humans are born to be gay? It's getting about as tiring as the closet Republicans.
For a college student, you sure need some more English classes, because right now your reading comprehension sucks.
Please, point out to me where I said we were all born gay? I said we all had natural emotional and physical needs that we can very easily fulfill by obtaining a mate. "Mate" is a sexless word. It could be a man, it could be a woman, or it could be a hermaphrodite... or some other thing.
In my case, my emotional and physical needs were met when I found my wife. For Allen, it's obvious that his needs were slightly different than mine.
Please, learn how to read correctly next time before you make any assumption. As a matter of fact, I have never said anything remotely close to "everyone is born gay", and if I have at one point it was in a joking manner.
He didn't tell anyone because he knew he would not be accepted by the society.
Actually, perhaps I should have been more clear. He should have accepted his sexuality as well as attempt to hang out in a better crowd of people.
For instance, a few years ago I attended a wedding ceremony between two men who had lived with each other and being faithful to each other for 15 years or so before deciding to have a symbolical seremony. They seeked to declare their love for one another to society, and they got a big round of applause from us. Why? Because they hung around the right crowd of people.
When will you stop acting like humans are born to be gay? It's getting about as tiring as the closet Republicans.
When will you learn how to read correctly? It's getting about as tiring as nem jug's comparison of gay people to animal and rapists.

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Message 19 of 49 (419675)
09-04-2007 5:48 AM


(Ex)Senator Larry Craig
Surprisingly, nobody has brought this into the forum. I wasn't going to either, but I stumbled onto some interesting commentary.
Carpenter on Craig and Republican Gay Scandals
This is Ed Brayton's long excerpt from the longer Dale Carpenter commentary.
The elephant in the room
The full Dale Carpenter commentary.
quote:
This uneasy mix of the public and the private is not exactly what I'd call hypocrisy. It's perhaps better described as a form of ideological schizophrenia: private acceptance welded to public rejection. It's a very unstable alloy.
My very brief excerpt.
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nator
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Message 20 of 49 (419697)
09-04-2007 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Minnemooseus
09-04-2007 5:48 AM


Re: (Ex)Senator Larry Craig
All I can say to anyone trying to understand why the Republicans seem to be doing this sort of thing so often these days is, "read The Authoritarians".

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jar
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Message 21 of 49 (419700)
09-04-2007 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Minnemooseus
09-04-2007 5:48 AM


It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
Yet another opportunity lost. The problem is that the current homophobia, driven to a great extent by the need to maintain Biblical Christian political funding and voters, is only necessary as long as the Republican Party Candidates continue to put their individual personal wealth and power ahead of the needs of the country.
The Republican Party has an enormous opportunity right now. The question is, can they place the welfare of the United States ahead of winning the next election?
Can the Republican Party stand up and renounce the Conservative Christian Base, toss it aside, even at the expense of losing an election?

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Message 22 of 49 (419703)
09-04-2007 11:03 AM
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09-04-2007 10:15 AM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
jar says:
The problem is that the current homophobia, driven to a great extent by the need to maintain Biblical Christian political funding and voters...
Hey, I'm not a Chrisrtian, so am I homophobic, too, if I don't want a queer congressman tapping my shoe in the restroom to signal a blow-job opportunity?
”HM

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jar
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Message 23 of 49 (419706)
09-04-2007 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Fosdick
09-04-2007 11:03 AM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
If it were not for homophobia, there would be no need for such behavior. They would be able to approach you in the same way that boys approach girls and girls approach boys.

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Message 24 of 49 (419707)
09-04-2007 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by jar
09-04-2007 11:11 AM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
A question for you, jar: Do queers have "heterophobia"?
”HM

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jar
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Message 25 of 49 (419708)
09-04-2007 11:19 AM
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09-04-2007 11:15 AM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
A question for you, jar: Do queers have "heterophobia"?
If so, I would say it is not a phobia, an unreasoned fear, but rather a very realist appraisal of the world.

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ringo
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Message 26 of 49 (419709)
09-04-2007 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Fosdick
09-04-2007 11:03 AM


Hoot Mon writes:
... am I homophobic, too, if I don't want a queer congressman tapping my shoe in the restroom to signal a blow-job opportunity?
Fear of oppurtunity would seem to be a phobia.
In the Land of Oppurtunity, it seems downright unpatriotic, too.

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Message 27 of 49 (419714)
09-04-2007 12:16 PM
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09-04-2007 10:15 AM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
He was creationist too, and co-sponsored a constitutional amendment when he was in Congress to put creationism is public schools.
The "Community Life Amendment."
Check out the front page of Panda's Thumb, they've got the details and the links.
At least from this perpsective I'm fine that he's gone.
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Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added Panda's Thumb link.

I mean, this is America. Everybody loves seeing lesbians go at it, as long as they are both hot and not in a monogamous, legally sanctioned relationship.

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jar
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Message 28 of 49 (419715)
09-04-2007 12:18 PM
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09-04-2007 12:16 PM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
It's all the same issue.

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Message 29 of 49 (419716)
09-04-2007 12:22 PM
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09-04-2007 12:16 PM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
clpMINI writes:
He was creationist too, and co-sponsored a constitutional amendment when he was in Congress to put creationism is public schools.
The "Community Life Amendment."
One down, how many more to go?

Idiots speak louder than words
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Taz
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Message 30 of 49 (419719)
09-04-2007 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Fosdick
09-04-2007 11:03 AM


Re: It is a shame that Larry Craig resigned.
Hoot Mon writes:
Hey, I'm not a Chrisrtian, so am I homophobic, too, if I don't want a queer congressman tapping my shoe in the restroom to signal a blow-job opportunity?
Let me tell you a short story about my person experience.
A while back when I had just gotten away from the fundamentalist mindset and was starting to frequently go out to gay bars with my newly aquired friends, I was very surprised to find the gay bars almost completely littered with young and old women. In some cases, the women outnumbered the men. The supposedly gay parties that I went to also had whole hords of women, in some cases they outnumbered the men. Naturally, they assumed that I was gay for being there.
Later on, what surprised me even more was that most of these women were straight. They were just crowding into gay bars and gay parties to get away from the hords of horny straight men who want nothing but a quick blowjob from the female stranger they had just met.
Believe you me, it's the straight men that hit on the women a lot more often than the gay man wanting something from another gay men.
So you don't like it when gay republicans tap your shoe in the restroom to signal a blow-job. Has it occured to you that women even hate it a lot more when straight men straight out proposition them for a quick and cheap blow-job ending with "see you later, bitch"?
By the way, what I began to notice after a while was that the gay bars also had horny straight men walking around hoping to pick up an easy one night stand and picking fights with the gay men who mistakenly thought those horny straight men were gay men just out looking for a good time.
It's us straight men as a group that annoy another group of people (women) a lot more. But of course you don't hear that on the news, because us straight men also have the loudest mouths when, god forbid, gay men made a slight gesture at us. A gay man only has to tap your shoe for it to make it to the CNN news for a whole week. A straight woman has to be raped and tortured in order to get a whole minute of news coverage.
My advice. You should really get over yourself. Just remember that not every gay man is attracted to you. If you are propositioned by a gay man, just decline it and that is the end of that.

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