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Theodoric
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Message 361 of 4573 (799720)
02-13-2017 10:36 PM


Russian mole in the White House. At least one.
The drip, drip, drip is now like the Oroville dam.
What did the President know and when did he know it? Who else knew this guy was compromised?
These people are playing games with OUR national security. For what, monetary and political gain?
quote:
The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...72-263470bf0401_story.html

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 362 of 4573 (799723)
02-13-2017 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 361 by Theodoric
02-13-2017 10:36 PM


Re: Russian mole in the White House. At least one.
These people are playing games with OUR national security. For what, monetary and political gain?
The Republicans don't care.
They like to display their patriotism, which seems to be only for show. But they are okay with the white house being full of traitors, as long as they are Republicans.

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Message 363 of 4573 (799729)
02-14-2017 7:33 AM
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02-13-2017 11:11 PM


Re: Russian mole in the White House. At least one.
nwr writes:
But they are okay with the white house being full of traitors, as long as they are Republicans.
Kinda like Reagan. He was okay funding terrorists as long as they were his terrorists.

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Message 364 of 4573 (799730)
02-14-2017 8:28 AM
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02-13-2017 11:30 AM


Re: A Bit of Good News on Financial Advice
I don't think there's anything in the regulation that would prevent a broker from discussing with you the pros and cons of a risky but potentially very profitable investment. It's intended to rein in brokers whose primary goal is to maximize their commissions (some products carry higher commissions than others) rather than your profits. For example, a broker sells you Annuity X instead of Annuity Y, not because Annuity X is better for your particular financial situation but because it pays him a higher commission than Annuity Y.
Here's an excellent article that describes the rule's intention and the objections pretty well: Robo-advisers shrug off U.S. fiduciary rule hubbub
Here is the text of the rule from the Federal Register: Definition of the Term Fiduciary; Conflict of Interest Rule-Retirement Investment Advice
--Percy

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Message 365 of 4573 (799731)
02-14-2017 8:42 AM
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02-14-2017 8:28 AM


Re: A Bit of Good News on Financial Advice
The real question should be why the law was needed.
Anyone offering their services as a financial advisor should be providing good advice - the best they can - to their customers. If they are chasing commissions they are just salesmen and should admit to being salesmen.

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jar
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Message 366 of 4573 (799733)
02-14-2017 9:57 AM


Flynn gets flushed
And his resignation letter is classic "alternative facts".
quote:
Unfortunately, because of the fast pace of events, I inadvertently briefed the Vice President Elect and
others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian Ambassador. have
sincerely apologized to the President and the Vice President, and they have accepted my apology.
text of his resignation letter
He didn't lie, he inadvertently told Porkies and when he was caught did not immediately fess up.

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ooh-child
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Message 367 of 4573 (799738)
02-14-2017 11:43 AM
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02-14-2017 8:42 AM


Re: A Bit of Good News on Financial Advice
The law was needed to differentiate between retirement accounts & regular trading accounts since more people depend on self-directed accounts for their golden years. Before Reagan, very few people owned these types of accounts.
Good advisors explain to their clients that retirement accounts shouldn't be treated the same as a day-trading vehicle, but not all advisors are good.

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Message 368 of 4573 (799739)
02-14-2017 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 361 by Theodoric
02-13-2017 10:36 PM


Re: Russian mole in the White House. At least one.
A mole or a handler?
The drip, drip, drip is now like the Oroville dam.
What did the President know and when did he know it? Who else knew this guy was compromised?
These people are playing games with OUR national security. For what, monetary and political gain?
This of course brings Russian hacking of the election back into the center ring -- is this tit 4 tat? Is the promise of sanctions lifting payback for the hack?
And Flynn could not have promised sanctions on his own, he would have to have had authorization from Trump or the Russians would have laughed at him.
Do you remember the drip, drip, drip on Watergate and Nixon's WH attempts to deny and discredit?
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jar
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Message 369 of 4573 (799743)
02-14-2017 12:08 PM


And now a call to investigate Trump directly and Trump's Russian connection.
Well what else do you expect from flaming liberals out to sabotage il Donald.
quote:
GOP senator calls for exhaustive investigation into Trump-Russia connections
Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) on Tuesday said there should be an exhaustive investigation into the ties between Russia and the Trump administration.
"I think everybody needs that investigation to happen," Blunt told KTRS radio, CNN reported.
"And the Senate Intelligence Committee, again that I serve on, has been given the principal responsibility to look into this, and I think we should look into it exhaustively so that at the end of this process, nobody wonders whether there was a stone left unturned, and shouldn't reach conclusions before you have the information that you need to have to make those conclusions."
Wait, Roy Blunt? The Republican Senator? From Montana Missouri? He was a wacko liberal secret Muslim saboteur all this time?
What's next? Joseph Smith wasn't really a Christian?
quote:
"The national security adviser of all the people that work with and for the president has to be absolutely trustworthy and truthful and apparently he wasn't and he paid the price for that," Blunt said.
Wait. Does that mean alternative facts are really the truth? Does that mean people other than the national security advisor don't have to be absolutely trustworthy and truthful?
Knowing that makes me feel so much safer.
Edited by jar, : point out that Blunt is from the Alternate Montana

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Theodoric
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Message 370 of 4573 (799746)
02-14-2017 12:28 PM
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02-14-2017 12:08 PM


Re: And now a call to investigate Trump directly and Trump's Russian connection.
MO not MT. I think Blunt would take offense being mistaken for a Montanan.
Seems John Cornyn and Lindsay Graham are making the call for an investigation too. Some Rethugs think it is more important to investigate the leaks rather than the treason.
Maybe this is what the Rethugs were hoping for so they could impeach Trump and put Pence in the Presidency. I think that this going to be taking down more then Il Donald.
Well one can hope.
McConnell: Flynn investigation 'highly likely' in Senate committee | CNN Politics
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Edited by Theodoric, : No ive in offense

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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vimesey
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Message 371 of 4573 (799750)
02-14-2017 12:53 PM
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02-14-2017 12:28 PM


Re: And now a call to investigate Trump directly and Trump's Russian connection.
I'm guessing he'll just say that he knew nothing about what Flynn was doing.
That's hardly credible, but when has this ever bothered the Trumpster ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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jar
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Message 372 of 4573 (799751)
02-14-2017 12:59 PM
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02-14-2017 12:28 PM


Re: And now a call to investigate Trump directly and Trump's Russian connection.
That just an alternate Montana.
But everyone knows Lindsay Graham is just a sore loser. And John Cornyn? Who ere even heard of John Cornyn? Has he ever has his own TV show? Does he even own a Golf Course? Or a single Tower?

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PaulK
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Message 373 of 4573 (799759)
02-14-2017 4:50 PM
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02-14-2017 9:57 AM


Re: Flynn gets flushed
And it seems that Trump,knew about the phone calls: Trump knew of Flynn Russia phone call issues 'weeks ago'
And the Acting Attorney General warned Trump about the legal issues.
(Which raises questions about her sacking - clearly the Trump,administration don't care much about the law and I wonder if an honourable person could take the AG role)

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vimesey
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Message 374 of 4573 (799761)
02-14-2017 5:04 PM
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02-14-2017 4:50 PM


Re: Flynn gets flushed
I am having visions of a phone call from Putin to Trump:
"Donald - this Flynn situation, it concerns me. We still have deal, yes ?"

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 375 of 4573 (799767)
02-14-2017 9:52 PM
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02-14-2017 5:04 PM


Re: Flynn gets flushed
"Donald - this Flynn situation, it concerns me. We still have deal, yes ?"
Edited by Porosity, : No reason given.
Edited by Porosity, : No reason given.

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