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Message 1 of 6 (262697)
11-23-2005 12:44 PM


I never thought I'd actually start posting in this particular subforum, but there is just an issue I'd like to get off of my chest. As the topic suggests, it's religious oppression, but you could call it non-religious in my case. The story:
During a free class at school today, conversations were going on all over the class. I struck up a conversation with my friend over how I was facing detention today over the fact that I had forgotten a book for my religion class last friday (My school being a Catholic school). I was especially pissed off about it, and then proceeded to say "I'm getting out of that blased religious class, they fill your heads with nothing but bullshit, in my opinion."
Before my actual friend could actual find the few seconds to muster a simple response to my views, an arsehole sitting next to him then proclaimed, "What!? Darragh, you're an atheist?!" Reluctantly, I then went on to state reasons as to why I thought Christianity was self-contradictory in many ways, and how certain events in the bible couldn't possibly be true. I mentioned that guy Samson, was it? Who killed 1,000 men with a donkey's jawbone.
Unfortunately, that wasn't enough for the plank to stop. He then started telling the whole class I was an atheist. I have no problem with them knowing what religion I follow, or don't, in this particular case, but he spread the word as if I was some sort of anti-Christ, spreading the message of "f*** Jesus" or something to that effect, which is the complete opposite of what I believe myself. I have no problem with Christianity itself, but when it's forced on me, then I believe they've crossed a line.
Numerous people throughout the class started asking my what an atheist actually was, but the other idiots, who I was surprised to learn that they knew what an atheist is, then started saying things like "I hate you" and "You're going to get couselling from -Insert counselor's name here- for the rest of your years at this secondary school."
I just wonder, would this kind of shite be considered a form of religious oppression? I mean, Ireland is a democracy, I have the automatic right to believe what I want to believe, especially in terms of a god. I just don't believe there is any eternal bliss or eternal damnation awaiting us as soon as we cease to draw breath, not at all. I'm sure alot of people here would agree with me on being an atheist, but it's beside the point.
I'm going to speak to my religion teacher in the next week, to discuss me getting out of the actual class itself. I hate having to listen to what she has to say. "Sex before marriage is an act of deception" especially pissed me off.
Views, statements, opinions, anybody?

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Message 2 of 6 (262714)
11-23-2005 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ???
11-23-2005 12:44 PM


I'm not sure that you have really outlined what the subject is.
Is it the behaviour of some students?
Are you talking about the school sanctioning you for forgetting your book?
Or their requirement that you take certain classes?
If you can clarify that perhaps we can get somewhere.

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    ???
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    Message 3 of 6 (262736)
    11-23-2005 5:25 PM


    I'm not trying to force anybody to believe what I do, it's just that I think if we all questioned our religion every once in a while, rather than blindly following the pack, we'd all be a little bit better off. I know more about Christianity than those dolts do, or ever will; I believe one person said Jesus was related in some way to Santa Claus.
    And you didn't have to repeat what I said, I know I have the right to choose what faith I believe in, it's just I have none. I haven't the slightest bit of respect for those planks, they're completely moronic. And I certainly won't be like them, the least I could do was actually read up on the religion I once had, they couldn't even give me a half-arsed answer as to why they're Christian, aside from the fact that it's what they were brought up to believe.
    I just wonder, would saying "I hate you" because of my beliefs be the equilevant to saying "Jesus can suck my fat hairy balls" to a devout Christian?
    Oh, and it appears my classmates have unofficially dubbed me "Judas".
    This message has been edited by ???, 11-23-2005 05:29 PM

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    AdminJar
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    Message 4 of 6 (262959)
    11-24-2005 2:00 PM
    Reply to: Message 3 by ???
    11-23-2005 5:25 PM


    You're still not making it clear what you want to discuss. Can you address the issues in Message 2?

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    ???
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    Message 5 of 6 (263152)
    11-25-2005 9:53 PM


    I was only a Catholic previously because it was what I was taught to believe as I grew up, but as I got older, I began to do some research on the subject of Christianity itself. I began reading various websites, and reading books. And then I came to this forum, and I listened to the atheist's and rationalists' views on things, and I gradually came to a conclusion to believe there isn't sufficient proof for me to willingly talk to the ceiling every sunday.

    AdminPhat
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    Message 6 of 6 (263663)
    11-28-2005 3:28 AM


    Thread copied to the I need help ! thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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