The Deceitfulness of Man and formalized confusion; do you find much difference between these 2 cursed phenomena? Sure, the deceitfulness of self-deception is difficult to root-out of man and results in formalized confusion, ToE Babble, Charismatic chants, and human twisting of scripture.
Foolishness and Wisdom will always be ridiculous to each other. Obviously, we don't lurk this forum because we simply love ousting YECs and Evos.
Other evo-forums should better minister to the fully-convinced Evo (if there be such a thing). Does not Talk-Origins minister to growing and sprouting Evos better than this forum? Most YECs eschew the Talk-Origins Archive as foul-play, period.
In essence, you (Nos and John) are here because you have doubts and fears of the ToE. Who will root you out of this demonic system of secondary causes SANS the redemptive ID that I see you meandering about in, like the deceived Evo-system you invented?
This demonic self-deception has to stop; you are not primal machines that need to play and parrot the ToE. The movies playing on your apperceptions are powerful worlds that think, feel, hurt, cry, dance, see, hear, and touch. Empirical they are not. Real you are in these vast and incredible ways that defy any ToE.
Why, you and I in our consciences bear account for every thought and self-deception you and I invoke, every putrid idle word, and every sin; and I know that you know that I know: we wish our sins were gone.
Hence, why not invoke redemptive thoughts: Thoughts of deliverance, Mechanism(s) of Salvation, a science of some Christ-crucified-cursed-restoring-redeeming-raising-up-etc.-as-our-Lord?