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John
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Message 31 of 40 (21705)
11-06-2002 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by nos482
11-06-2002 10:20 AM


quote:
Originally posted by nos482:
Originally posted by John:
Even more primal than that-- from experience, from perception.
Depends on how you define human.

Yeah, and... ? How do you define 'human' such that it includes whatever you mean it to include?
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NimLore
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Message 32 of 40 (21746)
11-06-2002 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by halcyonwaters
08-13-2002 2:40 PM


I was ready to agree with you David but after reading Wordswordsmans sermonete I stand corrected..
his words made a verse from Revelation come to mind concerning this very matter... Revelation 12:11

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McDozer
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Message 33 of 40 (21804)
11-07-2002 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by halcyonwaters
08-13-2002 2:40 PM


I can only say: I wholeheartedly agree! And it's so refreshing for me to read someone's statements that could have very well been my own, especially after coming across a lot of internet garbage! I don't know who you are or what you are except that you're from Salem. well, I come from a tiny place not too far away from Salem in the South of Germany. They say in Salem witches were burnt (which I know happens to be another distortion of "facts", similar to the theory of evolution). Well, in "our" Salem witches are being made. (There's one of the few known schools of one organisation called "The Illuminati" there, the ones who are probably responsible for Darwin's book & its success...the "truthmakers", see?) Yip, just like somebody had to behind the creation of this universe, so somebody had to be behind the creation of the lie which denies this truth. And you quoting John 15:19... you know, I just happened to quote that very same verse to someone in a message on some other news group yesterday, believe it or not. Here in Germany EVERYBODY's brainwashed into believing in evolution. So did I until I found Christ in 1976 at the age of 13.
Proof that the Bible is for real: It WORKS!!! And if you happen to need any scientific proof, check out this link for some mind-boggling numbers: http://www.usa-the-republic.com/...gion/bible.html#genealogy
Oh yeah, I just see we've got another thing in common: I'm also called David

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NimLore
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Message 34 of 40 (21815)
11-07-2002 9:54 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by McDozer
11-07-2002 8:07 PM


Welcome to the board David, good to see fellow creationist/Christians aboard.
These minor miracles are good to give praise to God.
Just to add my little interesting "coincedence" yesterday in replying to this topic, I looked into Halcyons profile and went into the site listed there and there happens to be a man from that site coming to my city in two weekends to give his testimony of why he is a creationist( I guess anyhow).. has anyone heard of Henry de Roos?

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outblaze
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Message 35 of 40 (22065)
11-09-2002 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by McDozer
11-07-2002 8:07 PM


quote:
Originally posted by McDozer:
...Proof that the Bible is for real: It WORKS!!! And if you happen to need any scientific proof, check out this link for some mind-boggling numbers: http://www.usa-the-republic.com/...gion/bible.html#genealogy
And check this out for proof of assassinations foretold in Moby Dick
Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick

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Philip
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Posts: 656
From: Albertville, AL, USA
Joined: 03-10-2002


Message 36 of 40 (22077)
11-10-2002 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by nos482
11-06-2002 10:20 AM


The Deceitfulness of Man and formalized confusion; do you find much difference between these 2 cursed phenomena? Sure, the deceitfulness of self-deception is difficult to root-out of man and results in formalized confusion, ToE Babble, Charismatic chants, and human twisting of scripture.
Foolishness and Wisdom will always be ridiculous to each other. Obviously, we don't lurk this forum because we simply love ousting YECs and Evos.
Other evo-forums should better minister to the fully-convinced Evo (if there be such a thing). Does not Talk-Origins minister to growing and sprouting Evos better than this forum? Most YECs eschew the Talk-Origins Archive as foul-play, period.
In essence, you (Nos and John) are here because you have doubts and fears of the ToE. Who will root you out of this demonic system of secondary causes SANS the redemptive ID that I see you meandering about in, like the deceived Evo-system you invented?
This demonic self-deception has to stop; you are not primal machines that need to play and parrot the ToE. The movies playing on your apperceptions are powerful worlds that think, feel, hurt, cry, dance, see, hear, and touch. Empirical they are not. Real you are in these vast and incredible ways that defy any ToE.
Why, you and I in our consciences bear account for every thought and self-deception you and I invoke, every putrid idle word, and every sin; and I know that you know that I know: we wish our sins were gone.
Hence, why not invoke redemptive thoughts: Thoughts of deliverance, Mechanism(s) of Salvation, a science of some Christ-crucified-cursed-restoring-redeeming-raising-up-etc.-as-our-Lord?

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John
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Message 37 of 40 (22084)
11-10-2002 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Philip
11-10-2002 1:24 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Philip:
In essence, you (Nos and John) are here because you have doubts and fears of the ToE.
I have doubts about pretty much everything, Philip. But fearful I am not. Rock solid unshakable faith do I require? No.
quote:
you are not primal machines that need to play and parrot the ToE.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
quote:
The movies playing on your apperceptions are powerful worlds that think, feel, hurt, cry, dance, see, hear, and touch. Empirical they are not. Real you are in these vast and incredible ways that defy any ToE.
I just realized how much you sound like Yoda.
quote:
and I know that you know that I know: we wish our sins were gone.
Really, darliiiiing, you assume way too much.
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doctrbill
Member (Idle past 2765 days)
Posts: 1174
From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Joined: 01-08-2001


Message 38 of 40 (22146)
11-10-2002 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by outblaze
11-09-2002 11:42 PM


quote:
Originally posted by outblaze:
... check this out for proof of assassinations foretold in Moby Dick
Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick

Thank you for pointing this out. Just the sort of corroboration I needed to support my highly skeptical faith.
db

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Philip
Member (Idle past 4723 days)
Posts: 656
From: Albertville, AL, USA
Joined: 03-10-2002


Message 39 of 40 (22633)
11-14-2002 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by John
11-10-2002 8:04 AM


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John
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Message 40 of 40 (23401)
11-20-2002 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Philip
11-14-2002 1:33 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Philip:
...
Is this a response?
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