It's Obama who has the artificial jerky way of talking that reminds one of Hitler
Not to pick on Faith, because she did not start this crap, but I personally find the Hitler comparisons on either side quite distasteful. There are of course some connections that either side could point to, but on balance all of the 'Third Reich comparisons' is empty rhetoric. Surely we can disagree about each others politics without invoking the holocaust.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
Not to pick on Faith, because she did not start this crap,...
I *was* first to mention Hitler, but it was to express serious concerns about the similarities between Hitler's rise to power between the World Wars and Trump's campaign for the 2016 Republican nomination. The story is the same then and today: a dispirited and discouraged electorate seeks a return to former glories and finds refuge in the harangues of a self-serving, bullying demagogue with no conscience or compassion.
It is entirely acceptable to bring up Hitler and Nazi's if there is a valid reason to. Your comparison seems to be entirely valid. The problem is when the subject is brought up in inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic manner.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
I really think the comparison between Donald Trump and il Duce is far closer; Trumps behavior, positions, mannerisms, facial expressions, speaking style, gestures and carriage are far closer to what was recorded of Benito Mussolini then of Adolf Hitler. In addition, Trump even recycles some of Benito's material.
But il Donald has more hair.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
quote:It is since then that history of Italy starts, the real history of Italy, because if before one could think that history of Italy was the more or less complicated result of diplomatic ploys, of intrigues of the government, of passions of minorities, it is only in 1915, with the "bright may" of 1915, that the Italian people bursts on the political scene, casts out the traffickers from the temple, and finally becomes the maker of its own destiny. The conclusion that I am drawing before you, in this sunshiny, hopeful day is this: that today the Italian people and the Fascist Regime are a united, solid entity, unbreakable, formidable, able to challenge, as it challenges, all its enemies and also the passage of time.
I'm surprised nobody has yet posted this. I first encountered it via here.
quote:John Oliver did his usual brilliant job of being both funny and correct when going after Donald Trump and the ridiculous claims from his followers that he speaks the truth and is tough and manly and is a great businessman. None of those things are even remotely true. The best part is when Trump says I know lots of words. I have the best words.
21:53 long, and IMO worth it.
Moose
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This was a good one, and he does have the best words. He knows a lot of them, too.
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
32 Celebrities Who Support Donald Trump - #21 Jesse Ventura
Some fairly rational people, some loons, and then there's Jesse Ventura. While one might argue against his political legacy, I do think he's a reasonably rational thinker.
quote:JESSE VENTURA: FORMER MINNESOTA GOVERNOR, FORMER WWE PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER & REALITY TV STAR
I shocked my staff today. I came in and said, ‘You know what, as far as the Republicans are concerned, I said I hope Trump wins.
I don't have the larger context of that quotation, but I interpret it as "The Republican party is a disaster area, and candidate Trump will be doing a valuable service by totally crashing the party".
I don't think Jesse is a Trump supporter (I presume he means Trump winning the nomination, not the presidency).
Moose
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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
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"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
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It is entirely acceptable to bring up Hitler and Nazi's if there is a valid reason to.
Perhaps it is a matter of opinion, but I found the comparisons made by Percy and the ones he referenced to be superficial and weak. Trump is clearly a demagogue, but not all of those types deserve to be compared to Hitler. And of course the comparison brought out the expected response, full of even sillier rhetoric.
Yeah, there are some times where the comparison is valid and in fact a useful warning; it is important that history happens never again. But pretty close to 100% of the time, comparisons to Hitler are over the top; this time was no exception. Your own mileage may vary.
ABE:
I did not invoke Godwin's law. I know full well what Godwin's law is.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
It appears that Romney is on a mission to make sure Trump does not get elected. Seems he'd prefer Ted Cruz and then anyone else as long as they are not trump.
quote:His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He's playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat," Romney said, referring to a real estate seminar Trump launched in 2005 that was forced to change its name because it wasn't a real university. It is now the subject of multiple lawsuits alleging fraudulent behavior.
I find it difficult to imagine anyone less credible, but perhaps this is a sign that the Republican party is in an uproar. In many case he is chewing right into the teeth of a buzz saw by railing against the very Trump statements that are getting Trump his support.
Interesting.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
Re: 32 Celebrities Who Support Donald Trump - #21 Jesse Ventura
I don't think Jesse is a Trump supporter (I presume he means Trump winning the nomination, not the presidency
I think you are correct. Jesse is does not seem to be endorsing Trump. Maybe he's just trying to get attention.
quote:Jesse Ventura said Monday that if Bernie Sanders loses the Democratic nomination to Hillary Clinton, he would consider mounting a third party run for at the White House.
They’re setting the groundwork for me, the former Minnesota governor told The Daily Beast. Because if Bernie loses, by the time we get to June, how sick are the people going to be of all these people?
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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