Blood of Jesus

There is a far far simplier explaintion, that fits the pattern of the claims by Ron Wyatt.That explaination is that there is no real evidence that can be analysied, just claims to tickle the fancy of the believer.One fantastic claim might be able to be bought, if there is objective evidence that is provided to reserchers for analsysis.But, fantasic claim after fantastic claim, with all the evidence claimed not provided to outside authorities shows either fantasy on the part of the claiments, or fraud.

True, true . but what about Wyatt’s supporters that like to post how much evidence they have for his claims. Or even Wyatt’s colleague’s such as Moller who Buzsaw seem’s to think is more on the up and up.Both Nighttrain and Buzsaw have pointed to the exodus video as legit but still dodge the questions posted in the original OP for which most of us have asked for some type of reasoning for such poor evidence.

Hi CK. When I heard Ron lecture back in the 1980s he said relatively little about the AOC including most of the details itemized in this link. It reads more like some kind of a vision or dream than something that would have actually happened if all of this is claimed by him. I'm becoming very skeptical about most of this AOC stuff from what's being produced. It appears that he's found some significant stuff, but has gone awry in some promotion tactics. Maybe that's why God didn't let him finish the job on the more significant stuff like Noah's ark and the Nuweiba crossing. God knows.

The video I refer to was on the Exodus which was not a Wyatt video. I've never seen a Wyatt video on anything. I wrote him several times indicating that when his video came out I wanted a copy. He talked like one was in the works, but never came through on that for me. I've offered my thoughts on why there may be so little evidence on the AOC blood, et al, but the more I'm finding out about the AOC stuff, the more skeptical I'm becoming on that aspect of Ron's work. It appears that after finding some significant stuff he may have begun resorting to promoting himself rather than limiting published information on the research to what was actually found.His profession was an anathesiologist. Could he have been whiffing up some gas on occasions and becoming illusional or something? I just dono.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

Well I appreciate that you at least took the time to investigate some of Wyatt’s claims and see them for what they are . I see it was nighttrain that believed Wyatt’s claims and wish he or someone from the Wyatt camp, maybe someone like Tennessee R, would like to comment.

I think Buz has a more specific idea that the Jews would do anything to prevent any body presenting evidence to support the Christian claim of Jesus as the Messiah.And I think he gets this from Wyatt himself who uses Jewish and Muslim opposition to Christianity as one excuse why he doesn't have evidence. It's a canny excuse on Wyatt's part as it plays into the prejudices of his audience and there is a long history of conflict that this plays into.lfen

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True, true” but what about Wyatt's supporters that like to posthow much evidence they have for his claims

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They see the same "evidence" as anyone else. They're just convinced by it for some reason (IMHO it's becasue they want it to be real).

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Or even Wyatt's colleague's such as Moller who Buzsaw seem”s to think is more on the up and up.

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I'm not aware of any evidence linking Moeller to fraud, but he does seem to have uncritically accepted Wyatt's claims (in fact I know he has in the case of Wyatt's completely nutty rewrite of the 18th Dynasty). So he's still not a credible source. The others are at least as bad.d

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It appears that he's found some significant stuff, but has gone awry in some promotion tactics.

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What significant stuff?

it's still a conspiracy theory. and frankly, for all the christian holy sites and relics in jerusalem that are far, far better documented and established than any of wyatt's claims, it's a BAD conspiracy theory too.as a side note, one time i went for a walk with this lady from my hebrew class. we were going to go pickup an honored guest speaker, the former israeli ambasador to ethiopia who was responsible for the exodus of several thousand ethiopian jews a few years back during the civil war there. i turned to her, and asked "how do you keep getting these incredibly important and famous people to come speak to our little class of a dozen people?"she said, "oh, i just called someone who happened to know him..."so i said, "so basically, the evil underground jewish conspiracy network?"she shoots me this dirty look, half "antisemitism!" half "how the hell do you know about that?" ...then realizes i'm kidding.

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Evidence that is claimed, but never produced, year after year after year is no evidence at all.Unless the evidence can be produced, and evaluated with objective analsysis, it is not real evidence at all.One item that the 'psuedo-archelogists' will use is they go to a dig, find some old item, and declare it to be something of signifigence in the Bible. It might be nothign but an old pot of oil, or a mound of stones, but suddenly it becomes a temple artifact, or the evidence of the exodus. They then jealously guard their 'find', and refuse to let anybody subject it to objective analsysis.After all, they don't want to be disallusioned, and find their old pottery shard is 1000 years newer from what they claim it is proof of.Edited by ramoss, : No reason given.

Well, you have to consider Wyatt's market. His conspiracy theory sold well there. I mean in the end it didn't sell all that much but he only needed enough paying custormers to keep him in business and that he got.It's just I suppose that a few of his satisfied customers keep touting his malarky here and making a nuisance of it. But for me it illustrates that as much as I want humans to be rational they aren't. Rationality is something to be acquired in bits and peices, fits and starts. Oh, welllfen

He pioneered the Ararat foothills Noah Ark site along with the corroborating ballast stones, the Nuweiba Aqaba sandbar coral crusted chariot wheel discovery, the more Biblical Mt Sinai in Arabia, and other significant corroborating stuff regarding the Exodus. By applying literal Biblical data to research, he pioneered the most Biblical route the Exodus would have taken and in doing so discovered what the Bible indicated should be there.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

The problem with Wyatt's discoveries is that the evidence has all been misplaced in the back of a drawer somehere. With any significant archaeological discovery, the hard evidence must be available to be verified or falsified by others.With no public evidence, there are no discoveries.

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Well, those are impressive claims.Why has none of the evidence been put under peer reviewed scruntiny? Why has none of the claims ever made it into peer reviewed archelogical journals?The problem with the credibilty is that none of these fantastic claims ever had any of the evidence for them examined. Also, even IF some of the evidence actually exists as claimed, it is not even evidence of what is being claimed it is evidence for.

Well, buz, many have asked you and even folk that work directly for the Medicine Show called Wyatt Archaeological Research to present some evidence so it could be discussed. So far they have been able to produce nothing except evidence that they themselves tampered and unsupported assertions.If there is any evidence then please bring it to the table, either here in reference to the Blood of Jesus nonsense, or in one of the other threads dealing with Ron's Exodus theory which is filled with falsified data, or in one of the threads on the Flood Myth.Opportunities abound, it is only evidence that is lacking.

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