What makes so many people hate God

[QUOTE][B]so it doesn't get anymore simple than all the answers in one book.[/QUOTE][/B]All the answers in one book? Does that mean that I can find out in Genesis where to drill for oil? Can I find a cure for cancer and an AIDS vaccine? How about plans for something simple, like an internal combustion engine? [QUOTE][B]creation written simply in a handful of sentences.[/QUOTE][/B]Yet it explains nothing about the natural world. From a scientific perspective, it is absolutely useless. Some people claim that we can find the water cycle in Job and about oceanic circulation in Psalm 12. But the fact is that we did not learn about ocean currents or the water cycle from the Bible. They were discovered through the natural course of scientific investigation and people "found" them in the Bible later. Therefore, from a scientific perspective, it serves no purpose. Genesis is no replacement for scientific theories on the origin of the universe, the planet, or life, and was clearly never meant to be -- otherwise we would have had the industrial revolution four thousand years ago.

[QUOTE][B]for 1 yes the bible is written by men.[/QUOTE][/B]Then you admit there may be errors in it? After all, men are capable of error. [QUOTE][B]no i do not believe everything i read i only believe the Word of God.[/QUOTE][/B]How do you know the Bible is the word of God?

I believe God is almighty therefore i don't feel i have to defend his existence for him.[/b][/quote]Yet here you are. Why?I came on here and saw that some people actually come here looking for answers and cringed at what they were being given.Curious what you believe then. You believe the bible to be pretty much on the line with mother goose. I didn't come on here to debate whether or not God exists. You can't disprove him to me anymore than i can prove him to you. I asked the question to find out why you believe that he doesn't exist.------------------
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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
for 1 yes the bible is written by men.

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As I said, strike that piece of evidence. We are not appealling to the words of man.

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dictated by God

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And you know this because the Bible says so, and we aren't appealling to the words of men. More accurately, you believe this because you believe that the Bible says so. From what I can tell, it is only a few portions that claim to have been inspired.

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no i do not believe everything i read i only believe the Word of God.

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Which, of course, was written by men, and we aren't appealling to the words of men.

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yes i have read the old testament. i love the old testament. what about it don't you like?

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Well... how about the slaughter of babies in Exodus which was brought about by GOD's hardening of the Pharoah's heart?How about that Lot's offering his daughter to be gang-raped is ok?How about the slavery, the genocide, the murder, the draconian legal system?------------------
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Moving this thread to the Faith and Belief forum...--------------------EvC Forum Administrator

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mister Pamboli:I would punish you with "everlasting punishment", "in flaming fire taking vengeance" for your unbelief. Seems only fair, to me. Damned ungrateful kids! [/B][/QUOTE]Mister Pamboli,
I truly hope that your response is a sarcastic one aimed at what you presumed was the point I was trying to make. As a parent, my response would be one of grief and a desire that my child might eventually recognize that I exist and recognize me as their parent so that I might be able to have a relationship with them.

But would you willingly expose them to danger? Or even stop feeding them?

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Originally posted by gene90:
But would you willingly expose them to danger? Or even stop feeding them?

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Or drowned the lot of them in very big rain-storm?------------------
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I know he's real because he comforts me in hard time, when i pray he answers, he speaks to me through his written word, and he has drastically changed my life.** So by this criteria you set, you will agree that Allah (via angels), Brahman, and every other God that comforts his followers in hard times, answers prayers and speaks to them through his written word is real? People from many different religions claim that their god drastically changes thier lives! What makes your god any more real than theirs?------------------
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chara:
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by Mister Pamboli:I would punish you with "everlasting punishment", "in flaming fire taking vengeance" for your unbelief. Seems only fair, to me. Damned ungrateful kids! [/B][/QUOTE]Mister Pamboli,
I truly hope that your response is a sarcastic one aimed at what you presumed was the point I was trying to make. As a parent, my response would be one of grief and a desire that my child might eventually recognize that I exist and recognize me as their parent so that I might be able to have a relationship with them. [/B][/QUOTE]Um, I am going to point out the obvious here and say that I know that my parents exist because I have physically seen them, touched them, etc. They have been a huge physical presence and influence on the first decade and a half of my life. It would be silly to not believe they existed. I might become angry and ignore their existence, but this is not the same thing as not believing they exist as an entity.God, on the other hand, has never been a physical presence in my life, nor in anyone's life. God has always been "inside my head" only, like Santa Claus has only ever been "inside my head". God is only ever experienced inside people's heads.

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Originally posted by gene90:
But would you willingly expose them to danger? Or even stop feeding them?

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Yes, Gene, as a matter of fact I would and have done so. The fact of the matter is that my children have a free will - the ability to make their own choices and those choices have reaped terrible consequences in their lives. Rather than stepping in too quickly to rescue and see a repeat performance, we have with much sorrow waited for them to learn the lesson the hard way. I am sure that I have not expressed this as I had hoped to, but the crux of the matter is that sometimes we have to allow people to go through dangerous and hungry times to come to the realization that their way is not the best way.

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There is a way which seems right to a man and appears straight before him, but at the end of it is the way of death.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:Um, I am going to point out the obvious here and say that I know that my parents exist ...God, on the other hand, has never been a physical presence in my life,
[/B][/QUOTE]I was not attemtping to prove that God exists by asking the hypothetical question. I was asking how someone might respond to that situation. Thank you for your input tho'.

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Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

[QUOTE][B]Yes, Gene, as a matter of fact I would and have done so.[/QUOTE][/B]I find that disturbing.

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[QUOTE][B]Yes, Gene, as a matter of fact I would and have done so.[/QUOTE]

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I find that disturbing.

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No kidding.Chara,Please remember that God has not merely let his kids go there own way and get into trouble, but has actively killed them in great numbers on numerous occasions.------------------
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i made a mistake coming on this site.. did i ever. I kind of thought that people discussed beliefs on here. However it's seems to be a bunch of mere college and university kids who think somehow in that rotted human mind they posses some sort of wisdom. Let it be known that no wisdom exists in man. You may have a couple bits and pieces of knowledge, but men with much more knowledge than you make very unwise decisions everyday. i have not seen anyone stand up for their beliefs just seems to be a whole lot of people who take joy in attacking Jesus Christ and those who chose to follow him .. so i shake the dust from my feet as i leave this site. Whether or not you believe Jesus Christ came to this earth as a man for you! For all you who mock him by saying he doesn't exist. To be the ultimate sacrafice for sin. Woe to you who chose to mock him. I am no better a person than you but i have chosen to be in his grace on that day of judgement. You will bow down in fear of the Lord you will grovel on your face and it will be too late. I love you all and will pray for you that you come to know him before that day. But i will not participate in this ridiculous mudslinging site..------------------
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