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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
I will, if you promise to read it first How do you think I knew it was worthy of discarding?
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anastasia Member (Idle past 5975 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
scottness writes: Just say what you mean... You are kind of funny...I remember asking you to do the same, to just tell the truth in your own words...and you sent me a Bible quote
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anastasia Member (Idle past 5975 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
scottness writes: How do you think I knew it was worthy of discarding? Probably because you saw the word POPE? Seriously, what part did you not like?
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Vacate Member (Idle past 4622 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
they *exclude* the possibility that there is only one set of numbers in use I do understand that, but where in their religion ( Hinduism for example ) does it even mention one route to the afterlife? I KNOW that there is many many different ways for me to reach my workplace - I choose to use the same one but I know that a different person in the same position may choose an alternate route simply based on a personal outlook. Scottness has simply limited his outlook to only one possible path, this has in turn become his framework for trying to understand other peoples choices. He has misunderstood based on a personal outlook that many others do not share. This is about alternate choices, he believes there are none, they believe there is. They however do not say he is wrong, just another version of right.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
No, the lack of sound logic proves invalidity. The conclusion is not based on reason. That's true...
An irrational conclusion may still be true. Its likelihood has just not been demonstrated rationally. Do you have a non-rational basis for reason? I thought the scientific method was supreme? I cannot even believe you are saying these things... You are much smarter than that! Everything you just said can only assumed to be true if the law of non-contradiction is valid. And because it is valid, everything you just said is pure adulterated sophistry! Is this a joke? If so, you got me... Edited by scottness, : No reason given.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
I KNOW that there is many many different ways for me to reach my workplace - I choose to use the same one but I know that a different person in the same position may choose an alternate route simply based on a personal outlook. Thank you Vacate, you now understand. The workplace (the gate) is Christ.
Scottness has simply limited his outlook to only one possible path, this has in turn become his framework for trying to understand other peoples choices. He has misunderstood based on a personal outlook that many others do not share. This is about alternate choices, he believes there are none, they believe there is. They however do not say he is wrong, just another version of right. I stated earlier in the thread that that is not what I am talking about. We all start at different starting points, but 'reason' is the same in the east, as it is in the west. Logic is logic, just as air is air, and gravity is gravity. The ministries of the Gospel sell better in other countries than they do here in 2007, because people in poverty are in touch with reality more so than the wealthy. Their illusions are already shattered. We have the means to hold to them, because we are wealthy materially and intellectually.
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anastasia Member (Idle past 5975 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
Vacate writes: I KNOW that there is many many different ways for me to reach my workplace What if you had no idea where you worked? New job? 10 new hires think that they are going to work on a street corner vending candy...they think no matter which way they go they will find a street corner. They will. Rob thinks he is going to work on the corner of Green and Packer, and he KNOWS how to get there. He is excluding the possibilty that driving around randomly will take him to that corner. The other 10 are excluding the possibilty that they were hired to work a specific locale. They will still get to their corners, but there may be no BOSS waiting. Both are following their own logic, but both are exlusive. Hopefully Rob is realizing that there are actually a few routes (all the different types of christianity) to Green and Packer. Then he will find that his view which claims to be exclusive is a fraud as well.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Probably because you saw the word POPE?
Seriously, what part did you not like? Let's not waste space...
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Vacate Member (Idle past 4622 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Just say what you mean... I can save myself some typing and repeat what I meant to say - when I said it the first time.
vacate writes: They do not dictate an absolute path to the afterlife. I could try again, but I am running out of analogies
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anastasia Member (Idle past 5975 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
Archer Opterix writes: No, the lack of sound logic proves invalidity. The conclusion is not based on reason Look, is 1 +1 = 3 logical? No, therefore invalid as a rational conclusion.
An irrational conclusion may still be true. Its likelihood has just not been demonstrated rationally. 1 +1 could still equal 3, but we would need some 'faith' to replace the missing number in the equation, or to assert that it was intended. Perfect example of the logic of the Trinity.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
They do not dictate an absolute path to the afterlife. How absolutely convenient for them... Only God can dictate an absolute, so they are partially correct. 'The most deadly lies, are dangerous half truths.' (Ravi Zacharius / raised in New Delhi btw)
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Vacate Member (Idle past 4622 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
LOL! I love your analogy.
The problem is, it seems quite apparent that the boss was not clear to all his new employees exactly what the requirements are.
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anastasia Member (Idle past 5975 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
scottness writes: Let's not waste space... OK, I will tell you again. God is the only thing that does not contradict Himself. If He had a pure unadulterated church on earth it would not contradict itself. As it is, christianity may claim all it likes to be exclusive, but it is actually including MANY opposing ideas within itself. By this logic it too is a fraud. It is making a false claim. ABE. I will relent. Christianity itself is inclusive, but there is no reason a subsect couldn't claim to be exclusive. They do, and they are. Even exclusive of other forms of christianity. Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.
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anastasia Member (Idle past 5975 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
Vacate writes: The problem is, it seems quite apparent that the boss was not clear to all his new employees exactly what the requirements are. If the Boss is God, then maybe he WAS clear, but we just forgot?
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Vacate Member (Idle past 4622 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
scottness writes: How absolutely convenient for them... It is isnt it? But have no fear, they would not see fit to let you spend eternity in discomfort. You are welcome along for the ride.They would include you, as they are inclusive.
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