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Message 31 of 140 (379189)
01-23-2007 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by johnfolton
01-23-2007 3:47 AM


Re: Clintons Shameful Conduct in Office
Israel is Gods land to Israel not Muslims land
q. are the samaritans allowed there?
the ethiopian jews? the christians? the muslims that live peacefully within the borders of israel-proper? does god punish israel for allowing such outsiders in the holy city?
remember, perr capita, there are more christians in america than there are jews in israel. alot of other people there too. and i'm not even talking about palestine at all.


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Message 32 of 140 (379229)
01-23-2007 1:34 PM
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01-23-2007 6:38 AM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
December 26, 2004 = 230,000 people dead in one of the worst natural disasters in recorded history.
Great Hanshin earthquake (1995). Killed over 6,400 people in and around Kobe, Japan.
Chi-Chi earthquake (1999) Also called the 921 earthquake. Struck Taiwan on September 21 1999. Over 2,000 people killed, destroyed or damaged over ten thousand buildings
zmit earthquake (1999) Killed over 17,000 in northwestern Turkey
Bam Earthquake (2003). Over 40,000 people are reported dead
Kashmir earthquake (2005). Killed over 79,000 people
1998 Yangtze River Floods left 14 million people homeless
Psalm 110:1: The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psalm 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies: he shall wound the heads over many countries.
NAH 1:5 The mountains quake before him and the hills melt away. The earth trembles at his presence, the world and all who live in it.
MARK 13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
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EARTHQUAKES
Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
The number and intensity of earthquakes this century are at a level higher than any other time in history.
Current Earthquake Seismic Monitor (IRIS) - Link to Web site on major earthquakes in the last year. All yellow and red circles are earthquakes in the last fifteen days.
Current Seismic Events
By contrast in the years 1890-1900 there was only one major earthquake in the world.
http://home.flash.net/~venzor/chapter2signs.htm
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LUKE 21:7-28 Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
USGS 6.0+ TOTAL
1970 130 4139
1971 132 4507
1972 125 4548
1973 108 5175
1974 113 4996
1975 122 5318
1976 131 6308
1977 102 5775
1978 109 6428
1979 113 7161
1980 119 7348
1981 103 6829
1982 95 7747
1983 140 9842
1984 99 10493
1985 124 13115
1986 95 12718
1987 123 11290
1988 101 12711
1989 86 14585
1990 126 16612
1991 116 16516
1992 127 19548
1993 157 21476
1994 176 19371
1995 210 21007
1996 182 19938
1997 145 19872
1998 129 21688
1999 146 20832
2000 175 22309
2001 142 23534
2002 143 27454
2003 155 31419
2004 152 29140
2005 155 30461
http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/earthquakes/

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Message 33 of 140 (379309)
01-23-2007 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by johnfolton
01-23-2007 1:34 PM


Placing blame
Thanks for the info Charley but it does not answer my question. God was angry at Bill Clinton and destroyed California - In the examples I supplied who was God mad at in those countries administration to justify the natural disasters He employed?
Does God only send messages through natural disasters when trying to speak to the USA? If so, why was he not a bit more direct and destroy the home of Bill Clinton instead of destroying buildings on the other side of the continent?
This mysterious quake, centered in Northridge...
I wonder if you could aslo clarify for me what makes this quake mysterious while others are not? Where the quakes that I supplied somehow typical and predictable while the Northridge was out of the ordinary and completely unexpected? California is common for quakes and they expect to get more - where then is the mystery I wonder?

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Message 34 of 140 (379312)
01-23-2007 7:14 PM
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01-23-2007 6:42 PM


Re: Placing blame
God divided the land to the nations but he kept the Land of Israel for himself and that Jacob was the lot of his inheritance thru an everlasting covenant with Sarah's seed the wife of Abraham.
When America forced the settlers in gaza out to give this land away that was Gods. This brought the wrath of God within 24 hours on America in the form of Katrina.
P.S. When George W. Bush went against world opinion and sided with Israel last year we had no massive hurricanes. We are in the last days so we either bless Israel or side with the terrorists and bring on the wrath of God.
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2005 August - Under U.S. pressure, the Jews are forceably removed from their land.
During the month of August 2005, with unparalleled pressure from the United States - dreaded D-Day came. Over 8500 begging Jewish settlers were forcibly removed from the Gaza Strip. I watched in unbelief as the Jewish people were crying and pleading to remain in their houses and land. The Israeli soldiers came and literally dragged them from their houses. At the orders of the United States and against the protests of the Israeli government, bulldozers came and demolished their homes. The land was then given to terrorists who celebrated and shouted, "Death to Israel!"
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told BBC News, "Jewish homes in the Gaza Strip will be destroyed when Israel pulls out its troops and settlers. . . The view is that there are better land uses for the Palestinians to better address their housing needs," adding that the parties would "work towards a plan for destruction and clean-up."
After the Gaza Strip debacle, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice immediately began urging Israel to vacate the West Bank, "Everyone has compassion for what the Israelis are going through right now, but it can't stop with the Gaza Strip."
The hypocrisy and hostility towards the nation of Israel by the Bush administration is unparalleled in U.S. history. Violently removing the Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip, then giving the land to the terrorists and murderers of Israeli children equates to Bush giving Florida to Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. Why didn’t President Bush give Saddam Hussein the land of Texas instead of bombing Iraq? That would be more logical than demanding Israel to forfeit a strategic defense area of the Gaza Strip and West Bank to vicious killers that hate and kill the Jews.
2005 23 August
Israel completed the evacuation of the Gaza Strip and gave it to the Palestinians. The Gaza Strip evacuation came directly from President Bush's "Roadmap to Peace."
As my wife and I watched the pleading Jews dragged from their homes and land, I said, "God is not pleased with this. Somebody’s gonna pay big-time for this. God might start destroying some homes and running some people out of their land."
And somebody did. . . And boy did they.
2005 23 August - the Same Day - Tropical Storm Katrina appears
August 23, a small insignificant tropical storm slowly appeared in the Atlantic below the Bahamas named Katrina. From her beginning meteorologists stated the U.S. had nothing to fear. Katrina packed little punch, plus the computer forecasts kept Katrina calmly corralled in the Atlantic. Defying the computer models, Katrina turned south-east, scraped the south tip of Florida and then with the vengeance of a runaway freight train Katrina took an unexpected turn into the warm Gulf Coast. Meteorologists tracking Katrina’s unusual path labeled Katrina one of history's most bizarre hurricanes.
2005 29 August - Hurricane Katrina hits New Orleans
Katrina raced directly toward New Orleans, harnessing deadly strength every moment. Literally recording wind strength "off the scale" On Monday, August 29, the nation watched in horror as deadly Katrina slammed and slaughtered the fragile Gulf Coast. Destructive Katrina left beautiful homes as piles of worthless rubbish. Deadly Katrina tossed bodies like litter along the highway. When Katrina ended her deadly mission America suffered the worst disaster in her storied history. As I saw the thousands of homes destroyed, my mind kept going back to those U.S. ordered bulldozers destroying the Jewish homes in the Gaza Strip. As I saw the thousands and thousands of United States citizens being evacuated from their land, my mind could not keep from remembering the Jewish people crying and literally begging to stay in their land. America found no mercy for the Jewish people. . .
With no mercy. . . Katrina completely "bulldozed" tens of thousands of homes. Katrina completely "evacuated" the celebrated city of New Orleans. Hundreds of thousands are homeless, helpless and hopeless. The greatest displacement of U.S. citizens in history occurred. Over 10,000 people are estimated dead. Over 400,000 jobs were wiped out. President Bush has requested $50 billion from Congress for the first round of Katrina’s expensive bill. Estimates put Katrina’s final bill - over $150 billion.
Most reporters described the aftermath of New Orleans worse than anything they’ve ever seen.
If America continues to blatantly defy the Word of God
with their hostility and hypocrisy toward God’s Heritage, Israel,
buckle up. . . you ain’t seen nothing yet.
http://www.av1611.org/katrina.html
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Message 35 of 140 (379332)
01-23-2007 7:51 PM
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01-23-2007 7:14 PM


Re: Placing blame
There are other countries in the world that have suffered natural disasters! You changed the topic to Katrina - this is still in the realm of the USA.
What did Tailand, India, and Indonesia do to Isreal on December 25, 2004 that made God decide to kill a few hundred thousand people the next day? Is that specific enough?
This is the second largest quake ever recorded! We arent talking about a quake that killed a few hundred or a hurricane that wiped out a city - this killed hundreds of thousands of people. Surely they must have done something quite horrific to Isreal the day before this occured?

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Message 36 of 140 (379344)
01-23-2007 8:33 PM
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01-23-2007 7:51 PM


Re: Placing blame
What did Tailand, India, and Indonesia do to Isreal on December 25, 2004 that made God decide to kill a few hundred thousand people the next day? Is that specific enough?
This is the second largest quake ever recorded! We arent talking about a quake that killed a few hundred or a hurricane that wiped out a city - this killed hundreds of thousands of people. Surely they must have done something quite horrific to Isreal the day before this occured?
What was the Indonesia government response to the Christians being beheaded before the tusami. Was it one of not enforcing peace but instead trying to negotiate with the terrorists.
Psalm 110:1: The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psalm 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies: he shall wound the heads over many countries.
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Since nearly 100 percent of Aceh residents are strict Muslims, Christian missionaries have not been welcome in northern Sumatra for years. But attitudes have changed since native missionaries began arriving with food and drinking water. One ministry in Jakarta chartered a plane to fly in a team of physicians with emergency medicines and medical supplies.
http://www.worthynews.com/...indonesia-tusami-survivors.html
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Message 37 of 140 (379362)
01-23-2007 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by johnfolton
01-23-2007 8:33 PM


Re: Placing blame
What was the Indonesia government response to the Christians being beheaded before the tusami.
I am not sure, did they make a speech about it on December 25, 2004? Did this have some sort of impact on Isreal? They are not Christians so I do not see what the relevance is.
How did India and Thailand play a part in this?
One ministry in Jakarta chartered a plane to fly in a team of physicians with emergency medicines and medical supplies.
The Maasai donated the USA 12 cows after 911 even though they are not Christians... whats the point? What did those countries do to Isreal before they got hammered by a tidal wave? ... nothing
He was making it crystal clear that when a nation or nations move against His people, HE WILL RISE UP AND JUDGE THAT NATION!
Its your topic.

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Message 38 of 140 (379365)
01-23-2007 9:29 PM
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01-23-2007 9:04 PM


Re: Placing blame
He was making it crystal clear that when a nation or nations move against His people, HE WILL RISE UP AND JUDGE THAT NATION!
How did India and Thailand play a part in this?
Its your topic.
Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
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What was the Indonesia government response to the Christians being beheaded before the tusami. Was it one of not enforcing peace but instead trying to negotiate with the terrorists.
Psalm 110:1: The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psalm 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies: he shall wound the heads over many countries.
Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious, the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth for his enemies.

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Message 39 of 140 (379407)
01-24-2007 12:24 AM
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01-23-2007 9:29 PM


Re: Placing blame
Any chance you could explain how Ephesians 3:6 and Nahum 1:2 are to draw me to the conclusion that God has taken revenge against these countries due to infractions against Jews?
Perhaps you may just want to edit your original statement to say that God is only interested in revenge if the offending country happens to be the USA.
I am leaning more and more to key lime pie.

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Message 40 of 140 (379431)
01-24-2007 3:29 AM
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01-23-2007 1:34 PM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
charles writes:
The number and intensity of earthquakes this century are at a level higher than any other time in history.
But the venerable Steve Austin of the Creation Research Institute says
Steve Austin writes:
A number of prophecy teachers say that a pronounced increase in frequency and intensity of earthquakes has occurred in the latter part of the twentieth century, a worldwide trend fulfilling a prophecy made by Jesus. Contrary to these prophecy teachers, no obvious trend is found indicating an abnormal increase in the frequency of large earthquakes during the last half of the twentieth century
....
Graphical plots of global earthquake frequency indicate overall a decreasing frequency of earthquakes through the century.

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Message 41 of 140 (379460)
01-24-2007 9:21 AM
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01-24-2007 3:29 AM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
But the venerable Steve Austin of the Creation Research Institute says Contrary to these prophecy teachers, no obvious trend is found indicating an abnormal increase in the frequency of large earthquakes during the last half of the twentieth century
Earthquakes have been on the increase, unless you can come up with a chart factoring all earthquakes 6< not just 6> showing they are not on the rise.
The evidence actually is that they are on the rise however Steve is right earthquakes 6> are not on the rise.
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Message 42 of 140 (379464)
01-24-2007 9:29 AM
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01-24-2007 12:24 AM


Re: Placing blame
Any chance you could explain how Ephesians 3:6 and Nahum 1:2 are to draw me to the conclusion that God has taken revenge against these countries due to infractions against Jews?
kjv Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave to Abraham by promise.
kjv Gal 4:22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
kjv Gal 4:23 But he of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
kjv Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
kjv Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
kjv Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
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Message 43 of 140 (379469)
01-24-2007 10:19 AM
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01-24-2007 9:29 AM


Re: Placing blame
Fair enough.
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Three Indonesian girls beheaded
Those girls where killed almost 2 months before the earthquake struck, I thought God worked on a 24 hour timeline?
Side Note:
Wikipedia + Timelines.ws writes:
March 26, 1964 - U.S. Defense Secretary Robert McNamara delivers an address that reiterates American determination to give South Vietnam increased military and economic aid, in its war against the Communist insurgency.
Mar 26, 1964 - Pres. Johnson signed a document that accepted "pre-delegation authority." It authorized senior military commanders to use nuclear weapons if the US was attacked by nuclear weapons and the president could not be reached
March 27, 1964 - The Good Friday Earthquake, the most powerful earthquake in U.S. history at a magnitude of 9.2, strikes South Central Alaska, killing 125 people and inflicting massive damage to the city of Anchorage, Alaska.
Conclusion- God warning the USA to leave the commies alone?
Wikipedia writes:
May 17, 1980 After the Coup d'état of December Twelfth (1979) in Seoul, General Chun Doo-hwan declared martial law to suppress student demonstrations around the country. For the period of Chun Doo Hwan's reign, the incident was officially regarded as a rebellion inspired by Communist sympathisers.
May 17, 1980 Rioting that claimed 18 lives erupted in Miami's Liberty City neighborhood after an all-white jury in Tampa acquitted four former Miami police officers of fatally beating black insurance executive Arthur McDuffie.
May 18, 1980 Mount St. Helens erupted
Conclusion - Divided between blacks and commies
I still do not see how you have proved that God is showing his fury in natural disasters. Its not hard really to look at a disaster, read back on the previous days news headlines and start making up prophetic sounding posts. I actually had no problem finding the right quotes that show God loves communists, with enough time I am sure you could find an example for each and every major event in the last 50 years that favor jews/christians in Gods fury... on that note you win.

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Message 44 of 140 (379472)
01-24-2007 10:36 AM
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01-24-2007 10:19 AM


Re: Placing blame
Those girls where killed almost 2 months before the earthquake struck, I thought God worked on a 24 hour timeline?
No, Those Prophecy sites only in respect to the 24 hours thing found it only related to Israels land for Peace.
kjv nahum 1:3 The Lord is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked:

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Message 45 of 140 (379496)
01-24-2007 12:29 PM
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01-24-2007 9:21 AM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
Earthquakes have been on the increase, unless you can come up with a chart factoring all earthquakes 6< not just 6> showing they are not on the rise.
Do you read your own link? It clearly said that the reason for the increase in the number of earthquakes recorded is proliferation of measuring devices.

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