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Topic: Gay Marriage
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: What about gay marriage
that law would be legal but not valid. Simply because it violates natural law.
So laws against nudity are also illegal? Its not like clothes are natural.
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod MinistryLive every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Re: What about gay marriage
Thanks, blues.
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show me how they were designed
Man pokes his stick to a hole that should produce babies. No two sticks can produce babies, neither can two holes produce babies. Simple.
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how does it contradict a law of nature, when there are very few if any scientific theories that can be construed as 100% fact
I think that a male penis entering a female vagina and producing babies is not a scientific theory but a fact. Or, did I miss your point?
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Message 303 of 519 (472754)
06-24-2008 3:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 301 by DrJones*
06-24-2008 3:38 PM
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Re: What about gay marriage
Hi Dr J,
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so laws against nudity are also illegal?
No, they are perfectly legal. Protects the nudist from bugs. Too, its safety issue, I guess. Imagine what traffic would be if you allow nudists to roam free on a busy street? Pat
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: What about gay marriage
No, they are perfectly legal.
But clothing is not natural, we're not born with clothes. Why aren't laws restricting nudity contrary to "natural law"?
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod MinistryLive every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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rueh
Member (Idle past 3686 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined: 03-03-2008
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Re: What about gay marriage
Ok so everybody knows there is a difference in how hetero's and homo's have sex. Is reproduction the sole reason for marriage though? If there are other reason's for marriage why is the difference in sex even a point?
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lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4742 days) Posts: 1277 From: A vast, undifferentiated plane. Joined: 02-28-2008
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Civil Marriage is About Property
The laws of nature said you should have been eaten by a zebra or died of rickets when you were ten. But as Americans, we have no obligation to comply with anyones ideas of the laws of nature. Civil marriage laws are about property, not reproduction. Should men and women be subject to fertility testing prior to marriage? They're not, you know? Why is that do you think? By the bye, gay folks have property.
Kindly There is a spider by the water pipe.
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Message 307 of 519 (472761)
06-24-2008 4:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 304 by DrJones*
06-24-2008 3:48 PM
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Re: What about gay marriage
Dr J,
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But clothing is not natural, we're not born with clothes
Clothing is natural. We seek protection from bugs, from the elements. On the other hand, poking a stick with a stick is not natural.
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Message 308 of 519 (472762)
06-24-2008 4:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 305 by rueh
06-24-2008 3:50 PM
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Re: What about gay marriage
Hi Ru,
[quote]Is reproduction the sole reason for marriage though?[quote]
No, but it is (or should be) the main reason for marriage.
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: What about gay marriage
Clothing is natural.
Show me one animal born wearing clothes.
We seek protection from bugs, from the elements
We also seek companionship, and same-sex relationships provide this for some people.
On the other hand, poking a stick with a stick is not natural.
But we see it in nature, unlike clothes.
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod MinistryLive every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Message 310 of 519 (472765)
06-24-2008 4:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 305 by rueh
06-24-2008 3:50 PM
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Re: What about gay marriage
Hi Ru,
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Is reproduction the sole reason for marriage though?
No but it is (or should be) the main reason for marriage, I think. But even if some would not agree that procreation is not the main reason for marriage, Just take a look at the physiological make up of the sex organs. Penis is to vagina by nature. Penis to penis / vagina to vagina is just not natural. Pat
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Message 311 of 519 (472766)
06-24-2008 4:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 305 by rueh
06-24-2008 3:50 PM
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Re: What about gay marriage
sorry double post Edited by Great J, : No reason given.
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Message 312 of 519 (472772)
06-24-2008 4:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 306 by lyx2no
06-24-2008 4:06 PM
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Re: Civil Marriage is About Property
Hello L,
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The laws of nature said you should have been eaten by a zebra or died of rickets when you were ten. But as Americans, we have no obligation to comply with anyones ideas of the laws of nature.
I don't get the joke about me or you eaten by zebra when we were ten. I'm sorry, I'm not american. But, americans are also subject to natural laws, eh? The point is: human laws are invalid if they go against natural law.
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Civil marriage laws are about property, not reproduction.
I respectfully disagree. I think there were cases of marriage annullments (divorce) that were granted because the female vagina is too small or that it caused discomforts to the couples. If you are concerned about property rights of gays, then amending marriage laws is not the answer. Try, strengthening partnership laws, for example.
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Straggler
Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: 09-30-2006
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Re: What about gay marriage
No but it is (or should be) the main reason for marriage, I think. But even if some would not agree that procreation is not the main reason for marriage, Just take a look at the physiological make up of the sex organs. Penis is to vagina by nature. Penis to penis / vagina to vagina is just not natural. Why does natural = should? Isn't this just the naturalistic fallacy? Should infertile heterosexual people be allowed to marry if procreation is the main reason for marriage? Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.
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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4500 days) Posts: 219 From: Rome Joined: 11-29-2006
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Re: What about gay marriage
Hello S,
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Why does natural = should? Isn't this just the naturalistic fallacy?
Needs clarification. Men enter into marriage for the main reason--and there are other reasons--of reproducing.It is their natural urge to reproduce--that's why they have the so called "father / mother instinct". The need to have, care, and love children that came from their own bodies.
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Straggler
Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: 09-30-2006
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Re: What about gay marriage
Needs clarification. Men enter into marriage for the main reason--and there are other reasons--of reproducing.It is their natural urge to reproduce--that's why they have the so called "father / mother instinct". The need to have, care, and love children that came from their own bodies. So what? You are till assuming that natural = good? Is rape natural? Is rape good? Is everything natural good? Is everything 'unnatural' bad? Please note I am not saying that homosexuality is either good or bad or natural or not. I am simply saying that your argument based on natural is irrelevant. So again I ask- Why does natural = should? Isn't this just the naturalistic fallacy? Should infertile heterosexual people be allowed to marry if procreation is the main reason for marriage?
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