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Brian
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Message 136 of 165 (56982)
09-22-2003 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by helena
09-22-2003 10:47 AM


Re: You don't get off that easily
Hi,
In a literal bible interpretation this is unfortunately true: Everybody is one of Noah's family, sort of...
regards
But Noah is part of Adam's family.
Brian.

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Rei
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Message 137 of 165 (56984)
09-22-2003 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Brian
09-22-2003 5:16 PM


They're creepy and they're kooky...
Hey, they're inbred enough...
(thanks for the inspiration! Sure, it's a quick, rough edit, but hey!)
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Brian
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Message 138 of 165 (56987)
09-22-2003 6:07 PM
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09-22-2003 5:58 PM


Re: They're creepy and they're kooky...
Hey there's only one 'Thing' there, didn't Gomez listen to the Lord?
Brian.

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crashfrog
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Message 139 of 165 (56988)
09-22-2003 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Rei
09-22-2003 2:08 PM


Re: You don't get off that easily
and deposited all of the neatly sorted dinosaur fossils through some sorting mechanism which creationists have yet to explain, despite repeated requests to do so. (This sorting mechanism clearly can't work on niche, mass, body size, body shape, etc, but has to essentially work 100% of the time around the world).
Not to mention that it also has to work on plants, which display as much sorting as anything in the animal kingdom...

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reddish
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Message 140 of 165 (57041)
09-22-2003 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by John
09-22-2003 10:16 AM


Re: You don't get off that easily
Clarifications and Admissions
1.)Not all of the book but if it's true then stories of creation and the flood would have to come from someone on the ark, because Noah's neighbour's either drowned or starved after their crops were destroyed.
2.) Tree bark to build the ark. I wasn't serious though, it's in this song you have to sing if you go to a christian church when you're little.
Also: Crashfrog, I suppose you're right. Skepticism is a bad word. I'm talking about those people who hate authority and refuse to believe anything people in charge tell them. Like those crazy people who meditate in crop circles, and satanists.

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Cthulhu
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Message 141 of 165 (57044)
09-22-2003 10:16 PM
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09-22-2003 10:14 PM


Re: You don't get off that easily
You don't know what Satanism actually is, do you.

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crashfrog
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Message 142 of 165 (57053)
09-22-2003 10:33 PM
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09-22-2003 10:14 PM


I'm talking about those people who hate authority and refuse to believe anything people in charge tell them.
Well, reasonable people have a natural distrust of authority. That's the basis of democracy, in fact.
I mean, what are you advocating here? Immediate, automatic submission to authority?

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Yaro
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Message 143 of 165 (57056)
09-22-2003 10:39 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Brian
09-22-2003 6:07 PM


Re: They're creepy and they're kooky...
don't mean to be picky, but that's cousin It, think is the hand creature

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allenroyboy
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Message 144 of 165 (57077)
09-23-2003 1:16 AM
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09-17-2003 7:04 AM


Re: We have the book!
Good.
I have been busy writing a paper on the Geology of the Lower Colorado River so I have not kept up with what is going on here. It is not finished yet, but I hope to have it in the box soon.
But, back to Woodmorappe's book. How about starting a new thread for each chapter? Let's deal with the information in that chapter and not skip around through the book, unless there is a closely related point in another chapter.

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allenroyboy
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Message 145 of 165 (57079)
09-23-2003 1:30 AM
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09-17-2003 5:48 AM


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Has Bergman produced any papers and submitted them to any professional journals which are non religiously-based?
Dr. Jerry Bergman Articles | Answers in Genesis
"Dr Bergman has presented over one hundred scientific papers at professional and community meetings in the United States, Canada, and Europe. To discuss his research, he has been a featured speaker on many college campuses throughout the United States and Europe, and is a frequent guest on radio and television programs. His research has made the front page in newspapers throughout the country, has been featured by the Paul Harvey Show several times, and has been discussed by David Brinkley, Chuck Colson, and other nationally known commentators on national television."
This web site does not list his papers, but I suspect that a search of scientific literature data bases typically found on University library computer systems for his name will turn up a good share of his papers.

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allenroyboy
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Message 146 of 165 (57087)
09-23-2003 1:43 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by nator
09-17-2003 6:05 AM


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So, can you please list for me the Creation 'science' researchers who are currently active researchers within their field of expertise?
I don't know if anyone has ever put together such a list. However, the new Director of the Van Andel Creation Research Center (VACRC), Dr. Kevin Anderson, is an active creationist and active research scientist who just retired from the USDA in Ames, Iowa. Dr. Anderson not only has an earned Doctorate but also has been trained for four years as a Research Associate and as an NIH Postdoctoral Research Fellow. Prior to his position at the USDA, he served on the graduate faculty at Mississippi State University. His area of specialty is molecular biology and microbiology. He has mastered many highly technical research procedures and will bring some of these to bear in the VACRC.
Dr. Anderson brings to the creation/evoution debate an immense knowledge and experience in microbiology, biochemistry, and molecular genetics. His publication list includes being author or co-author of more than twenty papers in non-creationary technical journals and seven creationary articles. He has been involved in developing more than twenty technical abstracts and presentations for various non-creationary professional meetings. He as also been the recipient of seven major research grants from various agencies and institutions.

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Rei
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Message 147 of 165 (57093)
09-23-2003 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by allenroyboy
09-23-2003 1:30 AM


I can't find a single Bergman article in any non-creationist journal. Can you help?
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JonF
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Message 148 of 165 (57174)
09-23-2003 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by allenroyboy
09-23-2003 1:30 AM


I suspect that a search of scientific literature data bases typically found on University library computer systems for his name will turn up a good share of his papers.
No need to go to a university library ... just search PubMed. That'll certainly turn up any papers relevant to life sciences. Dr. Jerry Bergman of AIG has exactly zero papers listed there. There's a Bergman, J whose affiliation is the University of Turku, Finland, with several papers, and a few other Bergmans with affiliations like Institut fur Bioanorganische und Radiopharmazeutische Chemie, Dresden .. but nothing by a Bergman who could be AIG's.

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JonF
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Message 149 of 165 (57176)
09-23-2003 9:06 AM
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09-23-2003 1:43 AM


His publication list includes being author or co-author of more than twenty papers in non-creationary technical journals ...
Preesumably they're part of this list ... but I don't see any relevant to evolutionary biology.

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John
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Message 150 of 165 (57390)
09-24-2003 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by helena
09-22-2003 10:47 AM


Re: You don't get off that easily
quote:
Everybody is one of Noah's family, sort of...
True, but I doubt this is what was meant, else I'd have the same authorial weight as good ole Noah.
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