Morality without god

I suggest you have no idea of the real history of Ireland.God has convinced me that all His judgments are righteous whether I am able to see how or not. There's no way I'm going to convince you of that, but I suggest you take it to Him personally IF you are at all willing to be wrong in your judgments.

"Hey Marg, John down the plantation just got back from Mesopotamia and he said that there's a salty old sea dog there that heard that there's a guy in the desert building this damn big boat. He say's that the world is going to flood. What do you think we should do about it?""I don't know George, what did he say we should do?""Oh, he didn't really say, something about sodomy I think. What's for dinner?"I still think Facebook would have been a better idea.

I have no idea of the History of ireland? So r u saying that my neighbours daughter wasn't put in a Laundry house in September 1986? Im in freakin Dublin right now! I am vey very well versed in my National heritageCan I ask how exactly has god convinced you of his righteousness? You have offered nothing in defence except... Well kinda threats I suppose

Ok - "Just Being Real" can u explain the slaughter of the town and the taking of 3,200 virgins to me please?From my point of view in reality it looks like revisionist history by a warring tribe explaining how it was "gods will" that they sacked and butchered their neighbours

And there we go. I knew the No True Scotsman would not be far behind.This fallacy again disqualifies you from being taken seriously on any subject.A present you the troll of the day award.

Well, let me quote Walther at you again. "Love your neighbor as yourself" was clearly not sufficient, since it did not in fact suffice. It didn't suffice for the apostles, Faith. As for Paul, if he suggested any such thing, it must have been omitted by the copyist. Faith, I found a massive gaping flaw in your apologetics, not in anything that God said to me. It's your argument. You said he couldn't have got people to break the slave habit, and I pointed out that there was a time at which none of the Israelites had the habit and all of them must have royally hated slavery. Could I again point out that you're meant to be a Calvinist? Stop making up theology as you go along. OK, so God could have told him to do it. And then there'd have been no "habit" for his descendants, which, stop me if I'm wrong, includes the entire nation of Israel. Again could I point out that that's a cop-out.

Tyrants have always done that - and their minions have always used it as an excuse for "just following orders".Lack of personal conscience is the ultimate example of having no morality at all.

God is a tyrant, because he is almighty god of the living.Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.You must be under the liberal illusion that you can avoid reality, which, of course it the father oif Truth before which all men will bow, as this Age comes to fulfillment.The Truth can notbe hidden as in the past, nor clouded over by the ninsense you post, hoping that confusion and semantics can make what is simple so complicated people will be deceived.This is The Information Age, and every jerk with a computer can now research and discover whatis true and what is not.
In this Age, people will no longer bow to these attempts you make to confound issues which they can check out easily.

I am of the opinion - illusion or not - that we can and ought to try to change the bad parts of reality. If reality included a tyrannical god then the moral thing to do would be to challenge his tyrany, not kowtow to it.Morality requires trying to do what's right, whether it's possible or not.

My question was meant to be serious. If you need to apologize for being here, then why are you even here? Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

But Christians don't all mean the same thing by 'the word of God'. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

And seal your own ignorance of the truth.Right, so anybody can call themselves anything and if anyone challenges their legitimacy they can be hooted down on the basis of this bogus No True Scotsman ploy.No, according to the fundamentals of Christian belief, the Roman Church isn't even remotely Christian, it's a pagan counterfeit of Christianity that makes use of pagan religious symbology that has nothing to do with Christianity, requiring all kinds of rituals and performances for their bogus version of "salvation." For centuries it denied the people the right to read the Bible, and even their priests were considered suspect for reading it. They burned at the stake those courageous ones who preached from the Bible and translated the Bible into the people's languages. They hideously tortured and murdered tens of millions of Bible believers, and in some parts of the world Catholics still persecute and murder Protestants, but somehow I'm the troll and committing the fallacy here. No, the Vatican is not even remotely Christian and the sad thing is that they've created such an effective false image that nobody can say so.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You have no idea of the EARLY history of Ireland is what I should have said. The true identity of Patrick -- no Roman Catholic he -- the fact that Ireland's early church was not Roman Catholic, and that Romanism conquered the island by force. Did you know all that?

...Are you really challenging an Irish-born national who at this very moment continues to live in Ireland in a contest of knowledge of Irish history? You, who don't even have a particularly fact-based grasp of American history, as an American yourself?Seriously? You're really doing that?

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