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kjsimons
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Message 31 of 49 (59081)
10-02-2003 9:37 AM
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10-02-2003 7:50 AM


Oh, the irony of it all! He probably really believes that we evilutionists think this way.

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Mammuthus
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Message 32 of 49 (59099)
10-02-2003 11:22 AM
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10-02-2003 9:37 AM


So many fallacies so little time

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IrishRockhound
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Message 33 of 49 (59108)
10-02-2003 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by defenderofthefaith
10-02-2003 7:27 AM


Absolutely right, defender. It's been proven by so much more than just moths...
I think everyone's already posted all the misinterpretations I might have thought of. Grrrr...

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defenderofthefaith
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Message 34 of 49 (60476)
10-10-2003 8:18 PM


Well, that is the misinterpretation probably that frustrates me the most. Probably none of you say that, but some evolutionists do. Similarly many creationists would not hold the views you quoted.

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PaulK
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Message 35 of 49 (60551)
10-11-2003 6:55 PM
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10-10-2003 8:18 PM


Do you care to support your assertion ? Do you have ANY examples of ANY evolutionist claiming that the peppered moth is anything more than an example of natural selection in action ?

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Abshalom
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Message 36 of 49 (70835)
12-03-2003 4:16 PM
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10-11-2003 6:55 PM


My Favorite
That dinosaurs disengaged from another planet that somehow lost its gravity at about the same time as the Flood, then floated through space until colliding with Earth just after the Flood, and empacted at just the right angle, speed, and point that their bodies were engulfed in the deep layers of mud where they became fosselized in what ... approximately 5,000 years. Phew!

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Message 37 of 49 (70848)
12-03-2003 5:17 PM
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12-03-2003 4:16 PM


Re: My Favorite
I would dearly love to meet anyone who holds this belief. In person. Hearing this theory live would complete my life like nothing else could.

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Quetzal
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Message 38 of 49 (70849)
12-03-2003 5:18 PM
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12-03-2003 4:16 PM


Re: My Favorite
No way, Jose. I call "fake" on this one. Not even the most rabid carpet chewing fundy creationist I've ever encountered could come up with that much total nonsense (although, now I think on it, several have come close). Not and still have a brain that allowed 'em to type - or even breathe.
Gotta link?

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Abshalom
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Message 39 of 49 (70859)
12-03-2003 5:55 PM
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12-03-2003 5:18 PM


Re: My Favorite
Hold the friggin' phone, dudes. This particular theory reportedly was advanced on the job site by an engineering grad of Rose Hulman Poly, and who is now a U.S. Congressman who is re-elected term after term by virtue of his fundy supporters who arrive in droves from both inside and outside his district to support him and his gun-totin' pro-lifer tenets.

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PaulK
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Message 40 of 49 (70860)
12-03-2003 5:58 PM
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12-03-2003 5:18 PM


Re: My Favorite
The only thing that I've seen even come close is the neo-Velikovskian "Saturn Hypothesis" promoted by people like the infmous Ted Holden.
It's been a while since I've seen anything on that particular lunacy but here's a talkorigins page that mentions it
Sauropods, Elephants, Weightlifters: Mechanism
A talk.origins post:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1
Here is Ted Holden's own description
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

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Rei
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Message 41 of 49 (70873)
12-03-2003 6:34 PM
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12-03-2003 5:55 PM


Re: My Favorite
Rose-Hulman Poly (it's actually Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology now; it's been that since my father went there)? Congressman? Right-wing? If you didn't say "re-elected term after term", I'd think you were talking about my uncle.
Where are you from?
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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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Quetzal
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Message 42 of 49 (70961)
12-04-2003 10:07 AM
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12-03-2003 5:55 PM


Re: My Favorite
Wow! I stand corrected. I guess there are people who will believe just about anything. How does this, erm, brilliant individual manage to warp that around to anything resembling the stories in Genesis? It's been awhile, but I don't remember anything about it raining sauropods during the Flud.
Thank you very much. You have now completely destroyed any remaining vestige of faith I had in the basic rationality of Homo sapiens.

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Message 43 of 49 (70972)
12-04-2003 11:18 AM
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12-04-2003 10:07 AM


quote:
You have now completely destroyed any remaining vestige of faith I had in the basic rationality of Homo sapiens.
I had that cherry of mine popped a long time ago.
I was at University, sitting around with a friend, his girlfriend, and another girl from our Anthropology class. We started talking about Anthro homework and for some reason dinosaur fossils came up.
These two intelligent, attractive college students (the girls, not us) looked at each other and then at us, with slightly puzzled expressions, and said at the same time "Oh, well the devil put the bones there." Then they started chatting between themselves how quite assuredly the devil put the bones there.
Me and my friend were now the ones looking confused. We tried to talk about evidence and they both politely declined saying that only showed how well the devil had confused us with his trick. You could just see my friend's heart breaking as he watched his girlfriend say this so confidently.
Years later (in grad school) I was approached by an attractive girl who wanted to talk to me very much. For some reason I thought it was because she was attracted to me in our Geology classes. Well maybe that was the case... i dunno... I didn't wait around to find out after she began asking me where I thought Atlantis was, and telling me how the world was going to end in the year 2000 (a few years off). At first I thought she had to be kidding because she was a grad level geology student, but it was no joke.
In fact, I had never even heard of Intelligent Design until about four years ago when my ex-gf (who I'm still friends with) told me her brother was in hot water because for a major grad biology term paper, he had challenged one of Darwin's discoveries. My gf and her family were all brilliant (spending time with them was... until they found Jesus and Limbaugh... like spending time with Vulcans).
Her brother had won awards and not even out of grad school (even undergrad actually) he was being courted with job offers from many major Agri-businesses. So this sounded exciting to me. She sent me his paper and I was floored. All about mousetraps and flagellums and basically ad hominem (and strawman) attacks on Darwin. I sent it back torn to pieces. It turns out my gf had thought the same thing but wasn't very good at tearing it apart herself.
She then told me her brother's teacher was going to pull his scholarship over it, but there was a big brewhaha about intellectual oppression so it was left alone. Her brother graduated and now makes humongous money at a major agri-business and continues to "spread the faith." Her parents and he remain convinced that he has proven Darwin wrong.
It was maybe a year later, that I bumped into an actual ID website and discovered her brother had essentially plagiarized Behe. Other than adding in some additional (and atrocious) errors of his own. What I thought was an isolated incident of stupidity, turned out to be a mass movement of ignorance.
Thus I have learned no matter degree of inate brilliance, or time spent in education, there is no cure for the lure of "I don't know, therefore X must be." Followed by vigorous defense against having to accept any evidence which might prove "I don't know" false.
Humans is the craziest peoples.
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holmes

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Abshalom
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Message 44 of 49 (71197)
12-05-2003 12:04 PM
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12-04-2003 11:18 AM


"The Devil DId It"
Holmes:
I had completely forgot about that one ... "the Devil made me do it!"
Anyway, I have an appointment to attend to, and then I will get back to y'all as soon as possible with more details of the Dinosaurs from Planet Hell.
Peace

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Dan Carroll
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Message 45 of 49 (71213)
12-05-2003 12:47 PM
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12-04-2003 11:18 AM


My man Bill Hicks strikes again:
"Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith."
I think God put you here to test my faith, Dude.

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