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Panda
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Message 316 of 343 (638675)
10-24-2011 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Possessor
10-24-2011 5:52 PM


Possessor writes:
So the shells rise with the water because certain organisims can only live so deep in the water,and then when the water goes down they are left stranded on the mountain.
The 'shells' can rise with the water, but they can't descend with the water.
Why is that?
Can they only swim up?

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And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
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Message 317 of 343 (638677)
10-24-2011 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 316 by Panda
10-24-2011 7:03 PM


The time has come...
Are you claiming that you have never seen oyster beds rise and fall with the tides?
Sheesh;
Have you ever even considered the evidence?
Young inexperienced seashells obviously could climb up never to return.
quote:
"O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
The Walrus did beseech.
"A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each."
The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head--
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.
But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat--
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn't any feet.
Four other Oysters followed them,
And yet another four;
And thick and fast they came at last,
And more, and more, and more--
All hopping through the frothy waves,
And scrambling to the shore.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Panda
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Message 318 of 343 (638685)
10-24-2011 8:36 PM
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10-24-2011 7:20 PM


Re: The time has come...
quote:
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none
Yes, clearly they can't don't make it back down again.

If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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Dr Adequate
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Message 319 of 343 (638694)
10-24-2011 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Possessor
10-24-2011 5:52 PM


It is true that they got there because of the flood.Now this happend because the water had to rise above the highest point on earth so there was no escape from death.So the shells rise with the water because certain organisims can only live so deep in the water,and then when the water goes down they are left stranded on the mountain.
In the mountain. They are in the rocks, not just on the surface.
As to how oyster beds and coral reefs climb mountains, you have not proposed any details and I'd like to see you try. And having climbed up, as you claim, why couldn't they climb down again?

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Message 320 of 343 (638742)
10-25-2011 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by crashfrog
10-24-2011 7:02 PM


Well it's just like when it rains.The ground absorbes it.And probaly made some lakes and rivers biger and even made some new ones.

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Panda
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Message 321 of 343 (638747)
10-25-2011 1:04 PM
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10-25-2011 12:33 PM


Possessor writes:
Well it's just like when it rains.The ground absorbes it.
The ground doesn't just absorb water.
If the ground just absorbed water then after only a few heavy rainstorms the whole world would be covered in mud.
Instead the excess water normally flows through the ground and into the rivers and eventually the sea.
But if the whole planet was flooded then it couldn't flow anywhere.
Possessor writes:
And probaly made some lakes and rivers biger and even made some new ones.
There weren't any lakes or rivers: the whole planet was covered in water.

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And I wish that I were you
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Message 322 of 343 (638775)
10-25-2011 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 321 by Panda
10-25-2011 1:04 PM


yes,very good the earth was coverd in water,but as the water wen't back down it made the past rivers and stuff biger or even made new ones.

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Panda
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Message 323 of 343 (638776)
10-25-2011 5:40 PM
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10-25-2011 5:36 PM


Possessor writes:
but as the water wen't back down it made the past rivers and stuff biger or even made new ones.
Panda writes:
Instead the excess water normally flows through the ground and into the rivers and eventually the sea.
But if the whole planet was flooded then it couldn't flow anywhere.
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And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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Message 324 of 343 (638777)
10-25-2011 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by Panda
10-25-2011 5:40 PM


I think he's talking about what would happen at the end of the flood when the waters receeded. Though I'm not sure he's thought it through very carefully.

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Panda
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Message 325 of 343 (638779)
10-25-2011 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by Dr Adequate
10-25-2011 5:46 PM


Dr. A writes:
I think he's talking about what would happen at the end of the flood when the waters receeded.
He said that the ground absorbed the water.
But when told that the ground doesn't just absorb water he claimed it went into the rivers.
I am hoping he will see that water can't flow into the rivers when the planet is flooded because the rivers would be 'full'.
Dr. A writes:
Though I'm not sure he's thought it through very carefully.
Maybe he will, if encouraged.
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And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
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Bailey
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Message 326 of 343 (638810)
10-26-2011 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 315 by crashfrog
10-24-2011 7:02 PM


Movin' Mountains ..
I feel like there's a problem with your explanation, and it's this: where did the water go? If there's enough water on Earth to cover all mountains, then there's no way to move it around such that it doesn't keep covering all mountains.
Crash, you can't be serious - the flood obviously watered the mountains, causing them to grow to safety.
One Love

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Message 327 of 343 (638813)
10-26-2011 9:20 AM
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10-26-2011 8:05 AM


Re: Movin' Mountains ..
Bailey, you win the Internets for today!!!!

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subbie
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Message 328 of 343 (638828)
10-26-2011 11:23 AM
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10-26-2011 8:05 AM


Re: Movin' Mountains ..
My only question is, where do you get doobies with filters?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Huntard
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Message 329 of 343 (638844)
10-26-2011 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Possessor
10-25-2011 5:36 PM


Possessor writes:
yes,very good the earth was coverd in water,but as the water wen't back down it made the past rivers and stuff biger or even made new ones.
What do you mean "went back down"? Down to where? There's nowhere for the water to go, since, you know, the entire planet is covered with it.
Welcome to EvC, by the way.

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Robert Byers
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Message 330 of 343 (638937)
10-27-2011 4:47 AM
Reply to: Message 310 by Nuggin
10-21-2011 3:37 AM


Re: Summary
The biblical flood would not sort things like modern rivers etc.
This is a great chaos of immense powerful water.
Its sorting is by slabs as big as counties.
not by critters.
if the k-t line is the flood line then there would not be such a fauna mixture. The world before was not the world after.

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