Focus on the Family Will Keep your Kid from Being Gay

Yes, I am going out now to buy my gay-gene cattle prod! I'll try it out on my boss first. That'll be a hoot.Sorry, but bringing up a cardinal and Galileo doesn't do anything to bolster your gay-gene switch...thing. It is still stupid.And you want me to find out more about the gay-gene cattle prod?

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"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill

No they aren't. They can marry under the definition of marriage.If they want something else, they can petition to have a new law voted on and passed just like every other giant social issue in the US except Abortion.

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"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill

Stupid or not, the earth still revolves around the sun, and not vice versa.And stupid or not, the gay-gene switch still exists, at least in flies. Forget the cattle prod, concentrate on the gay-gene, period. That is, if you can find time between shooting up Iraki's and getting ambushed by them.

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We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Any man has the right to marry any woman, and vice versa. Noone is taking that away from homosexuals.

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Witness the wingnut position on gay marriage: if gay people will simply choose to live a lie, nothing is stopping them from getting married.Does everyone understand? Let's make no mistake: the wingnut xians want anyone who doesn't fit their sexual ideal to simply lie and pretend they do.

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Where does the bible say that?

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Good fucking question!

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If her mommy was a homosexual, she would not have been born at all.

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Unles of course her mommy was a fundie wingnut christian like you, in which case she would have done the christian thing and lived a lie.

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...or they have a gene that can be turned on and off with a cattle prod...

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My, my. I must give you 'A' for effort. I'll bet you spent all day thinking that up!

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"I think younger workers first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." George W. Bush, May 4, 2005

I'm off to buy my gay-gene cattle prod.I'll go zap some drill sergeants and turn them into limp-wristed faries. That'll be a hoot.But watch out, because if you are gay, I will use my gay-gene cattle prod to turn you straight! That is my plan as an evil conservative.And about your Iraq comment; that makes about as much sense as your gay gene switch.

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Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*

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If they want something else, they can petition to have a new law voted on and passed just like every other giant social issue in the US except Abortion.

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That's not true. The 1954 SCOTUS decision in Brown v. Board of Education overturned school segregation laws in virtually every city, county and state in the South. If we'd waited on public opinion to change the schools down here would still be segregated.It's okay though, Tal. No one would have expected you to know that.

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"I think younger workers first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." George W. Bush, May 4, 2005

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schraf, that would {be} accurate if you only lost the presidential election. But Democrats lost 5 seats in the House and 4 seats in the Senate, and that was with MORE Democrat incumbents! (buh bye Daschle)

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But tal, it is accurate, and what you say above is nonsensical.You claimed that a majority of Americans voted for Bush.That is not accurate.Just under 33% of eligible voters voted for Bush."Voters in the 2004 election" is a small subset of the set "eligible American voters".Did you fail math or something, tal, is that the problem here?

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Liberal ideas don't work and you have no values.

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If Republicans lose seats this time around, will you admit it is because their authoritarian ideas don't work and they have no values?This message has been edited by schrafinator, 08-22-2005 09:48 AM

Don't live a lie, just don't do it. What point was this making, besides showing your mental age? I'm going to invent it, pattent it, and market it. Can you imagine the sales? The uses know almost no limits! What if someone zaps the Pope!? Ok bad example. What if someone zaps a homosexual democrat and causes that person to turn straight? That could definately change some political landscape. I'd personally like to zap some drill sergeants and see the results. "Come on private! Get over that obstacle! But don't break nail sweetcheaks."This message has been edited by Tal, 08-22-2005 09:45 AM

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Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*

Homosexuality has nothing to do with masculinity nor strength. As it stands some drill sergeants (maybe even the toughest ball breakers) could be gay.I'd hate to see you try and turn a prod on a drill sergeant, turn him gay, and then learn that lesson the hard way when he shoves that prod up your...Wait, no. I'd like to see that.Whether you want to hate gays or whatever, at least get rid of the cliches. There are gays that loathe "limp-wristed fairies" as much as you seem to. And indeed there are gays, or those who engage in homosexual activity from time to time, that (like you) do not believe in a "gay gene".

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Every time you say this you sound more gay. How often do you envision yourself pulling out your "prod" and "zapping" your drill sergeant?In any case, make sure you read my previous post before you think zapping a drill sergeant is going to make life easier.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Oh I didn't say it would make life easier.Imagine the slew of NEW sexual harrassment allegations comeing from privates. We have enough problems with heterosexuals.

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Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*

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Now, a woman is born a woman. That woman is born with her a certain color of skin.

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If a mother who has brown hair and a father who has blonde hair have a child with red hair, does that mean that the child really isn't born with red hair?

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She is not born a homosexual.

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How do you know?Do you have some science to back this assertion up?

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If her mommy was a homosexual, she would not have been born at all. It is too easy.

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Men have only recently, and not universally, been prevented from owning women as their sexual property.Since it has long been the custom around the world for men to take women as posessions and use them sexually, and women understanding and having no choice but to accept that their place was to be compliant and submit to the desires of their masters, doesn't it seem quite possible that many gay women, even if they were born gay, gave birth to many, many babies under this social system?OTOH, does the term "recessive genetic trait" mean anything to you?

Indeed. It'll be a hoot because you won't know how to use your cattle prod if you don't avail yourself of some basic scientific knowledge. For instance, you might want to know which gene to zap. Luckily for you, this information is available in the form of research papers.However, your highly intelligent rebuttal of this research, "it's still stupid", makes me suspect you will do what most people do when they've bought a new appliance, which is to ignore the user manual and prod away.Good luck.

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We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

I'd love to introduce you to some of my gay friends, tal.They could kick your ass into the next town and not even break a sweat.

Perhaps, deep down inside, that is exactly what he's asking for.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)