Independent Historical Corroboration for Biblical Events

LOL! this is the first FACT that you have posted!I will reply tomorrow, it is late here and I am off to bed, LOL, I am taking a seminar at a real university Brian[This message has been edited by Brian, 10-28-2003]

Well there are a lot of problems with what you write.If yu want to discuss any of your supposed prohecies then choose one and start a thread on it.Here's some more facts for you.The authorship of Psalms is very uncertain (apart from the fact that it had multiple authors).The supposed reports of Pilate are well-known fakes.And no there are no official Roman records of Jesus birth (and wouldn't be - Roman censuses were for collecting taxes, and babies didn't have to pay them).And might I suggest that you avoid insulting people for knowing more than you.

Doc Robert, Please take a moment to refresh yourself on the forum rules posted here.
Especially numbers 3 and 9.3. Respect for others is the rule here. Argue the position, not the person. The Britannica says, "Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach."9. When introducing a new topic, please keep the post narrowly focused. Do not include more than a few points.Your assertions concerning Brian's character and intelligence are duly noted. I will let Brian handle this at this time, as I know he is well able to hold his own in this type of topic, without resorting to child-like name calling and aspersions against character.I suggest picking one item at a time, starting a new thread, and discussing it rationally.------------------
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since the post didnt get all posted then there is no reason to go on. You are not really a Christian are you brian nor this board. Your facts are in fact incorrect and you know absolutely nothing and I know what university you are attending. Therefore is no point as they assert points of historical and archaeological standing that is only conjecture and opinion and not fact. Thanks but you can keep your stupid board and your stupid opinions to your damned selves. This is the fallacy of people that learn untruths as truths and continue in our society. Now that I know where you are all coming from the point is moot. As are your miserable lives. Bye. I cant even say godspeed according to God just remember, Pro_6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:" 1- A proud look 2- A lying tongue 3- Hands that shed innocent blood 4- Heart that deviseth wicked imaginations 5- Feet that be swift in running to mischief 6- A false witness that speaketh lies 7- He that soweth discord among brethren.
Scripture tells us to mark them- NOT Judge them. Only God is Judge.

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"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

Hmm.. thanks, Doc, I had forgotten... I should wipe the Blood of the Innocents off my hands before I type, it gets all over the keyboard if I don't.Back to devising wicked imaginations...------------------
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illuminate me."

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"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

I'm curious to know (and I've asked this in many discussions elsewhere
without much luck) if anyone knows of historial writings or evidence
which corroborates any of the events of the bible.
By corroboration I mean unequivecable corroboration.I ask for this reason :: much of the conviction of creationists
against evolution, abiogenesis, etc. is founded in the belief
that the bible is a complete and accurate record of ancient
events.I would like to know if this belief has a foundation in testable
cross-corroboration, or is a matter of faith.

Look for a man named, Josephus; he lived dureing the era of Christ, he was a Roman/Jew scholar not only did he witness Jesus but he also saw the miracles Jesus had done in his lifetime. There is more out there you just have to look as I found truth through history after a long study on Science. I might add that if you want OT history you might start to look into Jewish records as they make up all of the Old Testament; then for a short time there was the Apocrphia; which is a book of Jewish histroy between OT times and NT times in the form of scripture. Also note that if you want Christian history just follow the trail of the Catholic church, they have been around since about 300ad (NEW ADVENT: Home). Peter, you might also try to compare Science outside of history or with history for that matter.

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http://english.sdaglobal.org/evangelism/arch/sodom.htm .
Center for Scientific Creation – In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood .

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There are alot more out there but this should help. note: I dont agree with the Catholic dotrine/faith but they are a very good source for history and biblical comparison in history.

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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
I found this one on ChristianAnswers.net - Is there any confirmation of Biblical events from written sources outside the Bible? - ChristianAnswers.Net
--It seems to have alot of information on different biblical implications and evidence in non-biblical documents and the like. I looked through a couple breifly, it has some good information.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Actually,all this goes to show is that the old testament of the Bible is filled with recycled myths from earlier cultures.
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All of those sources are not authentic, I have read them, also remember that all of that information is just assertions/assumptions. No body knows that information to be truth unless you are a evolutionist and then you would take it for granted and make it opnion. {none of it is fact, prove to me otherwise.}

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p.s. click on the link in my previouse post and check out the information provided by scientists, not historically valued assumptions.
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Oh dear, the late Ron Wyatt's "work". Even Answers in Genesis are suspicious of his claims.

"Doctor Robert"'s hate-filled little rant deserves no comment other than to point out that there is good reason to think that he himself is guilty of at least 5 of the 7 things that the LORD hates.

What else is there in macroevolution besides claims. I Would say his work compares to that of macroevolution, Mr Evolutionist.

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p.s. beware of PaulK he plays word games, and makes the most critical assertions. Paulk I had a bunch of my athiest buddys get online and read are last debate all they could say was that you made no since and that you play word games. They are athiest and into evolution. Yes I have friends that are of this nature but they think you are funny.

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What definition of "macroevolution" are you using ?Would the fossil and genetic evidence that links the whales to the artiodactyls be an example of something OTHER than claims ?And I see you're still upset that I caught you in your silly word game. Upset enough to lie again.Too bad.

Josephus's comments about Jesus are well known to be a fraud. http://members.cox.net/galatians/Josephus.htm.Also, please stop writing in orange; it makes your messages very hard to read. Could you instead just use [ qs ] and [ /qs ] to show quotes from others, like everyone else?

Why dont you type macroevolution into the Dictionary.com | Meanings and Definitions of Words at Dictionary.com smart guy.

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Not a lie as they are coming into the forum soon enough to follow your trail of laughs. You will see you will see ;.)

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p.s. why dont you type in liar into http://www.dictionary.com and read its defintion it does not fit my character. note: I dont go into a debate lieing to you in order for you to believe me. I went into the debate being honest with my knowledge and I said at one point I didn't think it was impressive then at another point I said it was cool. Then you went into how I was being a hypocrit or trying to make me out to be a liar when actually I was simply cought in making a mistake. Note maybe I dont have the best understanding of words. Maybe I am not the best person for debating; as that was just about first time I have debated anything regarding Science/History/Creation on this level and the first mistake I make you turn me into a liar. That is not true. Of course you might try to make me into a liar again for missunderstanding what happend as you may have a different outlook on it. You need to understand that some people dont need the benefit of the doubt, and I thank you for giving me such; but in that case I am a newb to debating. Remember that; and sometimes I may not be clear.
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