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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I cannot believe the audacity you have. You are putting Chavez in the same realm as Adolf Hitler. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? We did try to assassinate Hitler. Most of the world was at war with him. Chavez is a populist, leftist leader of a major oil producing country. Oil companies hate him.
Quit trying to colour the conversation here, by trying to justify Robertson, by equating what he said to what we may have done to Adolf Hitler. It is reprehensible.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Keep whistlin' in the dark jar, must make you feel better to consider yourself so superior.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2518 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
The old would you shoot Hitler question...
Here's the answer -- No. There are other solutions. Try to change his mind. Kidnap Hitler. Etc. Now, here's the bigger problem with this question. While I am certainly not a Hitler fan / Nazi apologist, I wonder if shooting Hitler in the 30's would have stopped WWII and the Holocaust from happening? Are they the result of one man's will or the results of geo-political conditions coming to a boiling point. I don't pretend to know the answer, but I know that you also do not know the answer. So, shooting Hitler would not necessarily make a difference, and it would be a morally wrong thing to do. Sounds like the answer is pretty clear.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: quote: Sorry about that seriously, sometimes I get a little crazy with my posts here, and I forget about the splinter in my eye. Don't ignore the obvious issues with our nation, we are as Rome was, we are spoiled, and we don't care about the rest of the "underpriveledged" world. Well, wait, we do care, we care about the stuff that we can get from the rest of the world. But that doesn't mean I'll ignore the substance in your reply.
quote: Stop generalizing here, you are hypocritically not giving those who you call the "left" the "benefit of the doubt".
quote: Seems to me, that you do the same thing to the "left". Again... porteus@gmail.com
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Why do you assume it is oneupmanship? Is he incapable of doing something humanitarian, because he is a leftist? Read about him, learn about him. He isn't perfect but a hell of a lot better than a lot of our politicans. More importantly. The majority of his people support him.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2518 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
I get tired of the way you all look down your noses at mere human beings as if you were god yourself. Grow up kid. Kettle, it's me Pot. You're black. Gotta love it when one of the "I'm saved, you're not" crowd tells you that you are "holier than thou". Too funny.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: You know, you're exactly like Faith in your posting. That's funny! back and forth back and forth So tell me who's better again? The Left, or The Right? porteus@gmail.com
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Robertson runs an aid mission to impoverished people.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sorry about that seriously, sometimes I get a little crazy with my posts here, and I forget about the splinter in my eye. Don't ignore the obvious issues with our nation, we are as Rome was, we are spoiled, and we don't care about the rest of the "underpriveledged" world. Well, wait, we do care, we care about the stuff that we can get from the rest of the world. That is such a crock. America is the biggest all time giver of aid of every kind to the rest of the world, both as a government and as individual citizens.
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wj Inactive Member |
faith writes:
So? Does that give him any right to pass judgement on someone else and promote the murder of another person? Robertson runs an aid mission to impoverished people. Perhaps the US and its constituents should keep their noses out of the business of another democracy.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Please follow the context. I was answering an accusation. It has nothing to do with what Robertson said. I answered that long ago.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: "biggest all time giver of aide of every kind" Really? Because recently aide was given to Africa in a project developed by Bush and Blair, and African officials were stated as saying that we were sort of "holding out". Considering Britain, a far inferior country economically gave more money to the project. Can you provide statistics? We are the wealthiest country, wouldn't you think we COULD give more? We also fund our soldiers to slaughter people living in IRAQ, is that a contradiction? We give arms to Israel to slaughter Palestinians, is that a contradiction? AMERICA IS NOT DOING THINGS FOR OTHERS, WE DESTROY OTHERS, OUR PEOPLE COULD CARE LESS, I HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE HERE IN NEW YORK, A "BLUE" STATE, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT BOMBING THE MIDDLE EAST. We are not worthy of your praise, stop please. Stop saying stuff like "That's BS", and "That's a Crock", and provide me with some evidence, or at least a viable opinion! porteus@gmail.com
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2518 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
America is the biggest all time giver of aid of every kind to the rest of the world False. Japan gives more than we do in numerically.1. Japan $7.9 billion 2. United States $6.9 billion Per Capita we come in 20th, behind -1. Luxembourg $313.71 per person 2. Norway $304.80 per person 3. Denmark $300.05 per person 4. Netherlands $243.79 per person 5. Sweden $188.85 per person 6. Switzerland $146.87 per person 7. Belgium $103.43 per person 8. France $89.02 per person 9. Finland $72.55 per person 10. Ireland $70.47 per person 11. United Kingdom $69.48 per person 12. Germany $67.93 per person 13. Austria $63.53 per person 14. Japan $62.00 per person 15. Canada $60.96 per person 16. Australia $44.49 per person 17. Spain $32.96 per person 18. Portugal $25.64 per person 19. New Zealand $24.70 per person 20. United States $23.33 per person And here's the list by percentage of GNP 1. Denmark $0.93 per $1002. Netherlands $0.83 per $100 3. Norway $0.76 per $100 4. Sweden $0.66 per $100 5. Luxembourg $0.53 per $100 6. Switzerland $0.43 per $100 7. Belgium $0.33 per $100 8. France $0.31 per $100 9. Finland $0.25 per $100 10. Germany $0.23 per $100 11. United Kingdom $0.23 per $100 12. Ireland $0.22 per $100 13. Japan $0.21 per $100 14. Austria $0.20 per $100 15. Canada $0.19 per $100 16. Australia $0.14 per $100 17. Portugal $0.14 per $100 18. Spain $0.14 per $100 19. New Zealand $0.10 per $100 20. Italy $0.06 per $100 21. United States $0.05 per $100 But, you know, thanks for playing. Thanks to nationmaster.com
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
That is such a crock. America is the biggest all time giver of aid of every kind to the rest of the world, both as a government and as individual citizens. Typical of people who believe things blindly. Just like Pres Bush and his cohorts. If you say it enough times it becomes true doesnt it. Again you have been shown wrong. Please, please check the facts before making these bold statements. You know someone here will research and get the truth.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2518 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
What accusation were you supposedly responding to?
By the way, I noticed you completely skipped message 39 where I ask if Pat Robertson asks for donations from his viewers.
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