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Michael_the_First
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Message 1 of 64 (97467)
04-03-2004 10:23 AM


Can anyone help ? Why wasnt jesus married. Surely a jewish man at this point in history would have been. Why no explanation to the contrary.
Perhaps this is another example of the bible's revisionism of the role of women in society. Would the admittance of jesus's union with a woman raise the fairer sex to a point of equality with man, and lower jesus from deity to man/philosepher.
Surely this is a more acceptable truth, that men collated the bible (selecting which gospels to include), and elevated mans importance in order to increase both influence and power.

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mike the wiz
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Message 2 of 64 (97472)
04-03-2004 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Michael_the_First
04-03-2004 10:23 AM


Actually Michael, Jesus was the one who talked with the Samarian woman when it was thought of as unacceptable, and also forgave the prostitute and healed women, this hardly shows us in-equality now does it. Also the Gospel in no way shows a sexist attitude.
I am going to guess that he wasn't married because he didn't come into the world for such purposes as a regular human life would. His bride is talked of in I think Revelation. Besides this, the importance we place on such things is maybe not what it would be with God, but that is only my opinion. Man was made to be with a woman - one flesh, but Christ is the son of God who became the son of man, he is not the father or the husband and in every scripture takes the role of the humble, lowering himself as as the greatest should do, showing a true example of greatness, and showing how service should be done, even HE came to serve us. Please know that this is only my opinion.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 3 of 64 (97502)
04-03-2004 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Michael_the_First
04-03-2004 10:23 AM


Jesus didn't get married because He didn't want to. He fulfilled the O.T. vow of a Nazarite : wholly dedicated to the will of God for His life.
IF you are insinuating that the Bible is unfair to women, then maybe this will make you reconsider :
Women were the first persons to learn of the Resurrection.
Women were the only persons that had the balls not to forsake Jesus while He was being crucified.
Jesus commended the widow who gave her last two mites.
It was a woman who poured the expensive ointment onto Jesus, then He proceeded to establish an eternal memorial of this event by declaring that wheresoever the gospel is preached, that is WHERESOEVER the gospel is preached the preacher MUST ALSO tell what this woman did to Jesus. (Matt.26:13)
The point being is that the woman responded to being saved/forgiven by giving something that was expensive. If you are truly affected by the gospel then the giving of something costly proves it. Yet this memorial established by Christ for what the woman did is almost never preached hand in hand with the gospel.

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patio furniture
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Message 4 of 64 (97583)
04-03-2004 8:06 PM


who says he wasn't married?

-Patio
"Which is it: Is man one of God’s blunders or is God one of man’s?"
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  
Wertbag
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Message 5 of 64 (97600)
04-03-2004 10:21 PM


Don't some churches teach that Mary Magdelene and Jesus were more than just friends? Some Christians believe she may have been his wife, but I think those beliefs are probably in the minority.

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Michael_the_First
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Message 6 of 64 (97673)
04-04-2004 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Cold Foreign Object
04-03-2004 1:22 PM


Why no women priests then ?
OK, i accept your points from the bible that women werent all bad, although i thought original sin was laid at their door (you will probably have a field day proving that wrong, what can i say, im a lapsed catholic) And blaming Eve for everything was a bit heavy handed on the big ones part.
So, seeing as how the bible was such a pro-woman read, why is it that there are no women catholic priests. Surely this is wrong, im sure i read once that Jesus made Mary Magdelene one of his disciples (i accept the term disciple may have been used in a some what looser form), so if the son of God saw fit for her to spread the word, why dont we allow it ?

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Michael_the_First
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Message 7 of 64 (97677)
04-04-2004 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Wertbag
04-03-2004 10:21 PM


Lots of people believe this, though its more to do with paganism than christianity. Da Vinci was supposed to believe this.

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mike the wiz
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Message 8 of 64 (97679)
04-04-2004 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Michael_the_First
04-04-2004 12:42 PM


Re: Why no women priests then ?
So, seeing as how the bible was such a pro-woman read, why is it that there are no women catholic priests.
What has catholicism got to do with the bible?
I am not catholic, yet I am christian. Blame the catholics not the bible.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 9 of 64 (97715)
04-04-2004 6:25 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Michael_the_First
04-04-2004 12:42 PM


Re: Why no women priests then ?
By your own admission - you are a Catholic - answer your own question.
By the way, Adam was punished too, he had to work the rest of his life.
Eve's punishment was to have to serve the inferior (Adam/man), this in itself tells us what God thinks of women; they are superior, however, I go about life enforcing God's punishment by not allowing women so called "equal rights". I am a chauvinist and proud of it.

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Buzsaw
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Message 10 of 64 (97772)
04-05-2004 12:25 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Cold Foreign Object
04-03-2004 1:22 PM


Jesus didn't get married because He didn't want to. He fulfilled the O.T. vow of a Nazarite : wholly dedicated to the will of God for His life.
Hi WT. There's no indication in the NT that Jesus ever took the Nazarite vow. He not only drank but made wine which Nazarites were't allowed to do. Contrary to false art, Jesus evidently cut his hair as did the majority because Judas needed to point him out of a group of men. He looked like the rest of the group.
Women were the only persons that had the balls........
Mmmm...."balls?"

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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 64 (97773)
04-05-2004 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Cold Foreign Object
04-04-2004 6:25 PM


Re: Why no women priests then ?
[/qs]Eve's punishment was to have to serve the inferior (Adam/man), this in itself tells us what God thinks of women; they are superior,.....[/qs]
WT, I don't mean to run off topic, but in short, where do you come up with this stuff??

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Buzsaw
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Message 12 of 64 (97775)
04-05-2004 12:37 AM


Why should Jesus marry when he knew that he'd be rejected of men and crucified? He had no certain home to keep a woman and for a woman to keep. He was a divine person on a divine mission and marriage wasn't to be in that role.

  
SRO2 
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Message 13 of 64 (97802)
04-05-2004 2:09 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Michael_the_First
04-03-2004 10:23 AM


Maybe he was gay.
The Bible does say that he was "fishing for men"...probably gay.

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crashfrog
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Message 14 of 64 (97819)
04-05-2004 4:36 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Buzsaw
04-05-2004 12:31 AM


WT, I don't mean to run off topic, but in short, where do you come up with this stuff??
I presume that his thought process went something like this: being made to serve someone is only punishment if you weren't made to serve them in the first place. Ergo if Eve's punishment is for her and her line to serve men, then that can only be because it's a reversal of what was supposed to be - men serving women.
I dunno - makes about as much sense as women being made to serve men, I guess. Neither position seems to bear much connection to reality as far as I've seen.

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mike the wiz
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Message 15 of 64 (97837)
04-05-2004 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by crashfrog
04-05-2004 4:36 AM


I dunno - makes about as much sense as women being made to serve men, I guess. Neither position seems to bear much connection to reality as far as I've seen.
Infact, didn't we show numerous examples of how Jesus treated women?
I fail to see how WT can justify his chauvinist position on a biblical basis.
infact Christ's position was clear - everyone should serve everyone, and he went about doing that, to gentiles aswell.

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