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kuresu
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Message 31 of 85 (366536)
11-28-2006 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Coragyps
11-28-2006 1:51 PM


doh! that's what I get for thinking too fast. doh!
now I just feel stupid.

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kuresu
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Message 32 of 85 (366538)
11-28-2006 2:51 PM
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11-28-2006 1:49 PM


i thought those nodules were nitrogen-fixing bacteria, not fungi?
mind you, it's been about a half-year since I've had any plant biology, and I'm not likely to take a class in biology again, so . . .

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Jon
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Message 33 of 85 (366542)
11-28-2006 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by alacrity fitzhugh
11-28-2006 11:27 AM


Oops... Was thinking of osmosis...
*whistles innocently*

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nator
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Message 34 of 85 (366548)
11-28-2006 3:48 PM
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11-28-2006 2:34 AM


Are you thinking of "osmosis"?

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nator
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Message 35 of 85 (366549)
11-28-2006 3:48 PM
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11-28-2006 2:54 AM


Re: bump
Should have said "expansion", not "explosion".

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Zawi
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Message 36 of 85 (366552)
11-28-2006 4:11 PM
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11-27-2006 10:42 PM


quote:
12: Refraction occurs when
A. light waves travel in a straight path.
B. light waves bounce off a mirror.
C. light waves are separated into a spectrum.X
D. light waves are bent.
  —"Phat"
The answer is D: Refraction occurs when light waves are bent. I remember it by thinking that Snell's law of refraction is all about bending angles. The process you're thinking of is diffraction.
Still, you got quite a few right that I wouldn't've been able to answer.
Cool test by the way, NJ... it's a good reminder for me to swat up on these things .
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Zawi
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Message 37 of 85 (366553)
11-28-2006 4:14 PM
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11-28-2006 1:49 PM


In Dawkins' book The Ancestor's Tale, he pretty confidentally states that plants could live without fungi; though the context of his statement was more about how rubbish animals and fungi are compared to plants, rather than him trying to prove a point about how plants live. So I wouldn't be too surprised if he was wrong on that count.
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truthlover
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Message 38 of 85 (366554)
11-28-2006 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Hyroglyphx
11-25-2006 1:31 PM


Can someone tell me what the answers to 6,7, and 8 are? I think I knew the rest. My guesses are:
6: Vitamin A can be found in:
A. green vegetables
B. citrus fruits
C. fish oil
D. wheat germ
A or D, if I had to answer, I'd choose A, but wonder if it was really C.
7: Mitosis is a process of:
A. creating energy
B. sexual reproduction
C. destroying mass
D. asexual reproduction
My guess is D, though I'm pretty sure it at least has to do with reproduction.
8: Animal cells have all the following parts EXCEPT:
A. vacuole
B. ribosome
C. cell wall
D. mitochondria
Guessing A, though my favorite cell word is endoplasmic reticulum, which has something to do with cell power and the chromosome. All my children know what it is from a huge skit on the cell that their school did, but I just like the sound of it.

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crashfrog
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Message 39 of 85 (366584)
11-28-2006 6:35 PM
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11-28-2006 4:22 PM


Guessing A, though my favorite cell word is endoplasmic reticulum, which has something to do with cell power and the chromosome.
(It's C. Animal cells don't have cell walls; they only have cell membranes.)
Actually the endoplasmic reticulum is involved in protein production. If I recall correctly it's studded with ribosomes, and forms a sort of collection bin for their protein products before they're "shipped out" to other parts of the cell, etc.

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kuresu
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Message 40 of 85 (366589)
11-28-2006 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by crashfrog
11-28-2006 6:35 PM


you're right with the shipping, just to the wrong destination.
All proteins for the cell are made by unbound ribosomes.
All proteins for other cells and areas outside the cell are made by bound ribosomes. those would be the ones stuck to the endoplasmic reticulum.
(abe:the RER (rough endo . . .) is not a storage unit. If anything, it would be the golgi apparatus, which is responsible for packaging the proteins to be sent outside of the cell)
Further note, if I remember correctly, endoplasmic reticulum is responsible for detoxification. the difference is that this occurs in smooth (ribosome-free) ER.
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Coragyps
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Message 41 of 85 (366590)
11-28-2006 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Zawi
11-28-2006 4:14 PM


Mmmmm. Yeah. Symbiotic bacteria, not fungi. My bad.

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kuresu
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Message 42 of 85 (366591)
11-28-2006 6:52 PM
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11-28-2006 4:22 PM


I can't help you with 6, sorry.
7 is D.
mitosis is nothing more than the splitting of a cell into two complete cells. Hence, asexual reproduction (no mixing of genetic material with outside sources, unlike sexual reproduction).
meiosis is a similar process, though only used by gametic cells, and in the end produces four complete cells instead of two.
8 is B.
I can definately (I hate this word--I can never spell it correctly)see why you might think that animal cells have no vacuoles. Compared to a plant cell's vacuole, ours are tiny, pathetic looking things.

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crashfrog
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Message 43 of 85 (366630)
11-28-2006 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by kuresu
11-28-2006 6:46 PM


Wicked, thanks.

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JustinC
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Message 44 of 85 (366725)
11-29-2006 3:57 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Zawi
11-28-2006 4:11 PM


quote:
The answer is D: Refraction occurs when light waves are bent. I remember it by thinking that Snell's law of refraction is all about bending angles. The process you're thinking of is diffraction.
Still, you got quite a few right that I wouldn't've been able to answer.
Cool test by the way, NJ... it's a good reminder for me to swat up on these things .
Just to be pedantic, light waves separating into a spectrum is an example of refraction.
The different frequencies of light bend by differing amounts depending on the frequencies (I like to think of it as the the higher the frequency the more light you have interacting with the interface per unit time, so the more bending. Not sure if that's sound though).
When I think of diffraction, I think of light or other waves going through a tiny slit and spreading out into light and dark patterns on a screen, though I think that's just one example of it (can't think of any others).
Sadly, I got them all except
quote:
8: Animal cells have all the following parts EXCEPT:
A. vacuole
B. ribosome
C. cell wall
D. mitochondria
I immediately saw vacuole and thought of the large central vacuole that most plants have. Having a B.S in Biology, it's pretty embarrassing to get that one wrong.
Anywho, this is all pretty basic high school science. I have a question that I hope is relevant enough to the topic:
Has anyone here taught high school science? What are their impressions on the quality of education the students have by the time they reach high school? How frustrating and/or rewarding is it teaching?
I enjoyed tutoring very much, but I couldn't believe some of the things people got stuck on and didn't know. And if it's that bad in college, i'd imagine it would have to be twice as bad in high school.
To be fair these weren't science majors but this stuff was still pretty basic and in my opinion they should have known it by then.
The reason I ask is that I just got a B.S. in Biology and a minor in chemistry. I'm going back next semester to finish a HPS degree and physics minor (hopefully), and then go on to get a Masters in Education and teach high school. That's the plan at least. I'm just not sure if I can handle high school students (and if karma exists, i'm in trouble because I really wasn't the most cooperative student)

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 45 of 85 (366802)
11-29-2006 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Phat
11-27-2006 10:42 PM


Phat Scores
18 correct, 7 incorrect out of a possible 25. (72%)

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