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simple  Inactive Member |
Star a billion light years away we'll call 'F'. Before seperation, it was -time from F to earth=0 After seperation it was time from F to earth=1 billion light years. Before, the stream of light we'll call S (and today's physical light we'll call P) So at seperation, P replaces S in place, still as a stream. Almost like the physical light was part of the combined light and rode on it's coattails at S speed. Now, however, as S was seperated, P was on it's own, and could only manage a slow speed. So any light as the guy said in one post that 'went past us' after the seperation, would only be P speed. Meanwhile I envision an uninterupted flow, with S being gracefully replaced by P.
So far, I see no one with any reason to doubt this. (Unless they don't believe in the Spiritual at all)
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simple  Inactive Member |
Several thousand years ago, according to this idea.
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wj Inactive Member |
How about a bit more precision? 6,000 years ago? 10,000 years ago? 2,000 years ago?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Space? I didn't mention that. God talks about His city and gives us measurements, 1500 miles long high and wide, so this would seem to take space. Time? I said Spirits are not limited by it, yet in a new world coming there is still sunrise sunset. But we'll have light from another source, and heat, and live forever, so no real time like we know it now, at least. quote:I answered this in a post just a few minutes ago, about how it was combined. quote:Who says spiritual light bursts?
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wj Inactive Member |
So "physical" light was riding on the coattails of "spiritual" light? So "physical" light was travelling faster than 300,000 km/s at that time? How fast roughly?
So, did the separation of "physical" and "spiritual" light occur instantaneously and simultaneously throughout the universe? Can we say that some thousands of years ago one photon was emitted by a star and it travelled to the earth many times faster than c and the next photon from the same star an instant later, after the separation, started on its journey to earth at the current rate of c? Did all the P light travelling on the coattails of S light suddenly slow down to c when the separation occurred?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Hmm, thought so. So animals can't feel love I guess? Tell me, did you hate your father, and want to do your mother? Just lay down on the couch and tell me all about it. I'm listening, really. ha. quote:No I don't define them that way, really, but thanks for asking. At least you acknowledge some form of thoughts. quote:And the 'physical evidence' of my thoughts, and everyone in the world's thoughts, does it all beep the same on your machine? quote:There are degrees of good and evil. God defines evil pretty good, but most people on earth have an inner basic feeling of good and evil we are equipped with as well, in case we haven't read the bible. Cluster bombs, radiation weapons, nuclear weapons designed to mass murder man and the like are evil in themselves I'd say. The real evil was yeilding to the devil, and hellish inspiration that produced these things. Likewise, in yielding to dark forces to use them, same thing, you just have to know who the enemy of man and our soul is. But this we can't discuss, as we are not of the same belief, so I'll agree to disagee on this. quote:God is the center, and when man gets far away, I'd say, from Him, he becomes eccentric, or off center! This is why modern psychciatry is so off center. Is it any wonder so many from that proffesion are plain nuts?
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pink sasquatch Member (Idle past 6022 days) Posts: 1567 Joined: |
Cluster bombs, radiation weapons, nuclear weapons designed to mass murder man and the like are evil in themselves I'd say. The real evil was yeilding to the devil, and hellish inspiration that produced these things. So massive destruction of human life with weapons is based on "hellish inspiration" and "yielding to the devil"? What if God tells you to do so?
Exodus 32:27 "Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, . . . and slay every man his brother, . . . companion, . . . neighbor." I Samuel 6:19 " . . . and the people lamented because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." I Samuel 15:2,3,7,8 "Thus saith the Lord . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. . . . And Saul smote the Amalekites . . . and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." Numbers 15:36 "And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses." Hosea 13:16 "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with children shall be ripped up." Or are those more acts of your "loving" God, that kills every creature he creates, save a few, by drowning?
God defines evil pretty good... Yes, I'd say so, God may just be the definition of evil.
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wj Inactive Member |
Perhaps that is material for a new thread. Let's have arky concentrate on answering questions directly related to his spiritual light fantasy.
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pink sasquatch Member (Idle past 6022 days) Posts: 1567 Joined: |
I apologize.
(Arkathon tends to push my buttons.)
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simple  Inactive Member |
6000, give or take a few hundred
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simple  Inactive Member |
"What if God tells you to do so?" He won't, He's not like that, What weapons did Jesus tell us to destroy everyone with? None, He healed and loved. WJ caught us, so I'll have to drop it. (so I won't get into lovafying the old testament, which is finished, over, completed)
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wj Inactive Member |
Arky, any answers to my questions in message #110?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:By coattails, I think of it as in some way the two were one. Now when they seperated, all we had was the one. Was it in the same form as it was when merged? Thinking about it, it would seem probably not. Because of the limitations of the physical. So the P, while in a merged state must have had different properties, beyond P. quote:Isn't a photon a property of P? So I don't think P can travel faster than it's limitations. While it was meged with S, somehow, it did not have the same properties. For all I know, maybe P is more or less a leftover that took up the space? (like filled the vacuum) (came to be as the only thing that could exist here instead or in place of) quote:I don't know. If we look back at creation, it took a week, so God doesn't have to do everything presto. If you have a grasp of why it either could not have, or must have, or something, do tell! After all, we're only talking about a model here that isn't gospel.
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wj Inactive Member |
Arky, spell crank.
It appears that you have no idea what you are talking about and you are just making it up as you go along. Pity you are so insecure that you have to rely on such fantasies so that you can put inordinate faith in the literal interpretation of a religious text.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 8996 From: Canada Joined: |
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Message 100 you say:
arkathon writes: The idea was that the physical light took over the path, so by my calculations it would not all go past for, in the case mentioned, a billion years. You were asked for your calculations. It seems you don't actually have any.
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