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Percy
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Message 1 of 14 (755796)
04-11-2015 4:14 PM


Who made these statements and when? These are paraphrases:
quote:
Because it's better to break bad promises than to keep them, I shall break this bad promise if I become convinced it's contrary to the public interest.
...
It is regrettable that black Americans do not have the right to vote. I think we should give that right to those who are very intelligent.
--Percy

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Message 2 of 14 (755803)
04-11-2015 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
04-11-2015 4:14 PM


Too early to spoil this too soon.
I'll let someone else emancipate this one.
Edited by AZPaul3, : too forward

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NoNukes
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Message 3 of 14 (755808)
04-11-2015 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
04-11-2015 4:14 PM


It is regrettable that black Americans do not have the right to vote. I think we should give that right to those who are very intelligent.
I'm not going to give the answer so as to give others a chance. However the final sentence as actually presented does not end with a period at the point where it appears in your quote, and what's left is fairly important. I would be all over a creationist who posted something like that even with ellipsis dots. I'll speak more directly on this once the answer is given.
Edited by NoNukes, : added "does not end"

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Percy
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Message 4 of 14 (755832)
04-12-2015 7:55 AM
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04-11-2015 6:19 PM


I originally included that part, but with that included it no longer seemed like a trivia question. Looking at it today I think my paraphrasing still left the answer a bit too obvious, maybe it would have been better to leave out or obscure a couple more details.
--Percy

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ringo
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Message 5 of 14 (755857)
04-12-2015 2:59 PM
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04-11-2015 4:14 PM


When in doubt, Shakespeare said it first.

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anglagard
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Message 6 of 14 (755946)
04-13-2015 11:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
04-11-2015 4:14 PM


Darwin
According to the 'science' of astrology, it was Charles Darwin.

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coffee_addict
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Message 7 of 14 (755998)
04-14-2015 3:52 PM
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04-11-2015 4:14 PM


Trivia question posted on the internet in the age of google... good idea

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Jon
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Message 8 of 14 (756001)
04-14-2015 4:13 PM
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04-14-2015 3:52 PM


The Value of Integrity
Age of Google doesn't have to mean age of dishonesty.
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

Love your enemies!

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Percy
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Message 9 of 14 (756005)
04-14-2015 5:06 PM
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04-14-2015 3:52 PM


coffee_addict writes:
Trivia question posted on the internet in the age of google... good idea
Actually, it's because this is the age of Google that I used paraphrases instead of quotes, and left out a couple details.
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 10 of 14 (756064)
04-15-2015 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
04-11-2015 4:14 PM


As today is the 150th anniversary of his assassination I will divulge the answer.
quote:
But, as bad promises are better broken than kept, I shall treat this as a bad promise, and break it, whenever I shall be convinced that keeping it is adverse to the public interest. But I have not yet been so convinced.... It is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that is were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers.
This is from his last public address on April, 11 1865
http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/...oln/speeches/last.htm

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 11 of 14 (756084)
04-15-2015 11:14 AM
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04-12-2015 2:59 PM


Hmmm. I thought that was Oscar Wilde.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Stile
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Message 12 of 14 (756103)
04-15-2015 11:49 AM
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04-15-2015 11:14 AM


I can beat that, and I'm not even joking.
I didn't know who he was talking about... and I even thought he was referencing two different quotes from (possibly) two different people
I understand he used proper quote-notation for a single quote while leaving out some stuff in the middle... now, anyway. That's just how my brain interpreted it when I saw it.

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NoNukes
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Message 13 of 14 (756105)
04-15-2015 11:55 AM
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04-15-2015 9:20 AM


This is from his last public address on April, 11 1865
In fact, this speech might well have gotten Lincoln killed.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 14 of 14 (756106)
04-15-2015 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Percy
04-12-2015 7:55 AM


Looking at it today I think my paraphrasing still left the answer a bit too obvious
You left in a too many of the original words. I recognized the source as Lincoln, but I still found that the easiest way to find a copy of the speech was grabbing about a half sentence and dumping it into a search box.
Very timely quote as Theodoric points out.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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