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Zachariah
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Message 61 of 76 (180715)
01-26-2005 5:59 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by contracycle
01-26-2005 4:29 AM


Why don't you just sit down and type out a pretty little list of allllllll the countries around the world that have given as much as the USA in regards to aid for Tsunami victims. Hell, we are helping out Indonesia which is the largest per capita muslim country and houses terrorists that are fighting against us. [qs]Hate filled propaganda [qs/] I'm quoting the muslims themselves according to the koran not the USA. You need to stop listening to liberal talking points and read instead.
Just for a second lets put pro and anti America aside. Are you telling me that it is better to have Saddam in power? In power with his two late sons to kill, rape, and torture those who speak against him. You probably think that is okay. [qs]bomb whole cities of muslims. [qs/] It's called war. [qs]cruel loan repayment regimes [qs/] Why don't research how many loans to nations like Japan and others that we have completely desolved and forgiven. We are further in debt because we give to nations to help them and then forgive the debt entirely so they can succeed. Go study. And give me some facts with backing. -Z

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contracycle
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Message 62 of 76 (180748)
01-26-2005 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Zachariah
01-26-2005 5:59 AM


quote:
Why don't you just sit down and type out a pretty little list of allllllll the countries around the world that have given as much as the USA in regards to aid for Tsunami victims.
Sure.
US: $350 million
Australia: $810 million
Germany: $674 million
Japan: $500 million
The other day the UK government said its expecting to pledge as much as 1 billio, and either way has promised to match UK public donations, which reached $300 million.
Good enough for you? As we can see, the US is the least contributive of major states. And this only after an outcry was raised against America's shameful initial offer of ameasly $35 million.
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You need to stop listening to liberal talking points and read instead.
It is precisely becuase I read that I am ware that the US is a semi-Fascist aggressor state that conqired Iraq and subjugated its people so that it could steal their oil.
quote:
Are you telling me that it is better to have Saddam in power?
No, but guaranteeing the soverignty of states is more important. Because the precedent that the US has set is that might make right; the rule of international law has been destroyed.
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Why don't research how many loans to nations like Japan and others that we have completely desolved and forgiven.
Sure. Back in the day. But that is absolutely no excuse whatseoever for compelling states suffering now to pay back forced loans RATHER THAN keep their own populations alive. Or compel them to sell of their publicly owne assets. Or place limits on how much their governments can spend on health care.
The United states is a predator nation that lives off the blood of the world.

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MangyTiger
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Message 63 of 76 (180757)
01-26-2005 9:05 AM
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01-26-2005 5:59 AM


Why don't research how many loans to nations like Japan and others that we have completely desolved and forgiven.
I can't speak for Japan but I know you didn't do it for us - we are still paying off Lend Lease from WW II

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Zachariah
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Message 64 of 76 (181169)
01-27-2005 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by MangyTiger
01-26-2005 9:05 AM


I personally think everyone should pay back their loans. Alot of our men died for you. Do you think it was worth something? Maybe if the USA stopped helping we could really see the truth.

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Zachariah
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Message 65 of 76 (181171)
01-27-2005 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by contracycle
01-26-2005 8:39 AM


Money isn't everything. We have people over their rebuilding getting water purified and alot of other neccesary things that don't come out in the $. And why don't you look at the amounts that have been donated from the private secture. People here have giving millions and millions of dollars of their own money to help out.
stealing oil?
Show me some proof. You idiots keep shooting off at the mouth about us going in for the oil, why don't you show me the proof. If it were true the liberal media would have it all over the news. SO far the only ones after the oil that is proven is the UN, Germany, France and I think not sure Russia. Where is the proof about the US or is it all hearsay like usual with you punks?
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MangyTiger
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Message 66 of 76 (181189)
01-27-2005 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Zachariah
01-27-2005 5:59 PM


I personally think everyone should pay back their loans.
I don't particularly disagree. You had us over a barrel and made the most of it - if the situation had been reversed we would undoubtedly have done the same.
I was going to say something else but it would be totally off topic - if I get around to it I'll start a new thread in the Coffee House.

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contracycle
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Message 67 of 76 (181285)
01-28-2005 5:45 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Zachariah
01-27-2005 6:05 PM


quote:
Money isn't everything. We have people over their rebuilding getting water purified and alot of other neccesary things that don't come out in the $.
Sure./ and so do many, many, NGO's. And of course the Indoneseian army ids half a million strong, which is why they are now seeking assurances that the US will leave, and soon, as they fear this is turning into an excuse for an American military presence in Indonesia.
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Show me some proof. You idiots keep shooting off at the mouth about us going in for the oil, why don't you show me the proof.
Well it seems quite reasonable given that all excuses fgiven for the war were lies, and that the US secured the oil fields as a priority and did not go looking for WMD as a priority. This was a war for oil.
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f it were true the liberal media would have it all over the news
What "liberal media"? You have a compliant patriotic media that never questions the governments; thats why all the bullshit about WMD was never checked. The "liberal media" is a fantasy.
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SO far the only ones after the oil that is proven is the UN, Germany, France and I think not sure Russia.
What a complete nonsense; if that was the case why did they oppose the war? Live in the real world, kid.
By the way, you are doing an excellent job of showing how much christians depend on prejudice; every one of your claims arises from uncrtitical patriotism for you evil agressor state and unrelenting hostility to anyone else and the goodness of anyone else. Christianity is thus revealed as a religion of hate.
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Zachariah
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Message 68 of 76 (182446)
02-01-2005 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by contracycle
01-28-2005 5:45 AM


Just as I thought. No proof. Hate the USA all you want. You are still ignorant of the facts.
1. The US secured oil fields because when Saddam went into Kuwait in 1991-92 he set them on fire. Since Iraq is sitting on one of the, if not the largest reserve in the world do you think it not wise to keep him from destroying the worlds oil supply. Or do you not need oil where you live?
2. Media not liberaly biased? You are a fool. Only someone so bent on believing lies would not be able to see it with clarity. When a war is going on and good things are happening to a country that has been oppressed for decades finally gets to speak and vote and media outlets are speaking ONLY of the negatives that is showing bias. When Dan Rather goes after the President of the USA with a fictional report ment to hamper the election outcome that is bias. Do you need more or are you really this stupid?
3. LIES? This president went in to Iraq 1st because Saddam wasn't complying with UN regulations that stated he was to supply them with information about his weapons and to allow the UN inspectors to go where they needed in order to get all the information. He didn't allow them and hadn't allowed them for 8 years (Clintons years) nothing was done. Clinton along with other countries said he had the WMD's but it's easier for you to say BAD....BAD George BAD! You sit on your ass doing nothing except watching and complaining. You're pathetic and full of liberal propaganda which makes you a fool.
4. Nonsense about France, Germany and the UN food for oil scandle? Do a google search. See how many article from around the world you will find about my myth. Hell it's been talked about for almost a year now. Where have you been? You better get your facts straight and bring some proof next time you shoot from the hip like you are. You are bringing nothing but B.S. and lies.
5. Prejudice or facts? When it agrees with your lies it's a fact when it doesn't it prejudice.....what a joke you are. How conveniant.
-Zachariah

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Message 69 of 76 (182448)
02-01-2005 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Zachariah
02-01-2005 9:35 PM


You better get your facts straight and bring some proof next time you shoot from the hip like you are. You are bringing nothing but B.S. and lies.
Zach, for someone who has not posted any evidence for his assertions I would be careful demanding it from others and calling them liars.
Making assertive statements does not make them true or false, it just makes them assertions. Please supply your own evidence before you jump on others.

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Zachariah
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Message 70 of 76 (182459)
02-02-2005 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by AdminAsgara
02-01-2005 9:53 PM


so sorry....
Sorry, I thought everyone on the planet had heard about it. It's only one of the biggest stories of our recent times. But if you don't like hearing bad things about socialists and communists and the OH so grand United Nations then I can see where the eyes and ears could have been shut. Here! Check these.
The U.N. Oil for Food scandal - Washington Times
U.N.'s Kofi Annan Under Fire for Oil-for-Food Scandal : NPR
I hope you enjoy. And yes, before anyone says anything there were some Americans and some American companies that profitted from it as well. Just not the United States. -Z

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contracycle
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Message 71 of 76 (182829)
02-03-2005 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Zachariah
02-02-2005 12:21 AM


Re: so sorry....
quote:
I hope you enjoy. And yes, before anyone says anything there were some Americans and some American companies that profitted from it as well. Just not the United States.
oh I see
But if a French company profits, the indeed it is "France" that benefits, right?

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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6353 days)
Posts: 989
From: Leicester, UK
Joined: 07-30-2004


Message 72 of 76 (182975)
02-03-2005 10:23 PM
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02-03-2005 10:03 AM


Re: so sorry....
OOOPs - replied to the wrong message ! Deleted this one and replied to the correct one.
This message has been edited by MangyTiger, 02-03-2005 22:28 AM

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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6353 days)
Posts: 989
From: Leicester, UK
Joined: 07-30-2004


Message 73 of 76 (182976)
02-03-2005 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Zachariah
02-01-2005 9:35 PM


1. The US secured oil fields because when Saddam went into Kuwait in 1991-92 he set them on fire. Since Iraq is sitting on one of the, if not the largest reserve in the world do you think it not wise to keep him from destroying the worlds oil supply. Or do you not need oil where you live?
Although willing to be corrected by one of our resident geologists I don't think that setting fire to oil wells is going to destroy the oil that remains underground. I've heard of underground coal mines burning for years on end, but never oil fields - I suspect because of the shortage of sufficient available oxygen in oil deposits.

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Zachariah
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Message 74 of 76 (184044)
02-09-2005 2:25 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by contracycle
02-03-2005 10:03 AM


Re: so sorry....
Nooooooooooooooo. If it was a French Company then I would have said so. This is the French gov, German gov, Russian gov. If I'm mistaken please find an article to enlighten me. Thanks.

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Zachariah
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Message 75 of 76 (184045)
02-09-2005 2:26 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by MangyTiger
02-03-2005 10:27 PM


Interesting. -Z

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