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Tangle Member Posts: 9510 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Son Goku writes: Just to say this isn't a closely tied to religion in Ireland as I think it is in the US. Opposition to abortion is still pretty high amongst atheists in Ireland. When I was an undergrad the head of the anti-abortion league in my uni was an ardent atheist. Yes, the ethics of abortion are not restricted to those with religious beliefs. It's concerns us all. I have to say that I'm personally uncomfortable with the current situation where we devolve the decision to the woman's right to choose and arbitrary time periods.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8556 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
What remedies would you suggest?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9510 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
AZP writes: What remedies would you suggest? I don't have any. Some problems don't have simple answers, but I'm uncomfortable ending life for convenience.One day we'll look back on these practices and shudder. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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I'm not sure 'convenience' is a factor in very many abortions.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I don't think so. Abortion has beeen around since.the first person figured how to do it. For millenia.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9510 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
jar writes: I'm not sure 'convenience' is a factor in very many abortions. I'm pretty sure it is. But I guess it depends what you think 'convenience' means.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9510 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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quote I'm just hoping for continued improvements in technical solutions. The condom was one, the contraceptive pill another, the 'morning after' pill yet another. (Though that last is also technically an abortion, most would accept that a few undifferentiated cells are not the same as a 12 week foetus.) There needs to be changes in society too - equal access to early medical help, better education etc etc. A boy can hope.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
FLRW writes:
That fact that Sidis was a socialist proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that, far from being "the most intelligent person to ever live", he was an idiot. If you search for the most intelligent person to ever live, you will find the name William James Sidis. If you look up information on him you will find: In 1919, Sidis was arrested for participating in a socialist May Day parade in Boston that turned violent. A socialist - by defintion - has sh_t for brains.Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
Anyone who believes reality is confined to the parameters of modern science is an ignoramus of exceptional quality.
I cannot accept a belief statement. I need the science to accept and approve such a statement.I am not just atheist I am anti-theist.
Hey, no kidding?! The mere mention of God sends you into an apoplectic fit of mouth-frothing rage and malevolence. You're like a hate-speech-spewing human version of Pavlov's dog.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8556 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
The mere mention of God sends you into an apoplectic fit of mouth-frothing rage and malevolence. You're like a hate-speech-spewing human version of Pavlov's dog. The road to the Christo-fascist state is lined with the priests’ people telling you to stop overreacting.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I guess you need to define convenience.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
All those options are not 100%. Rapists and abusers rarely use birth control. Shame and fear will keep many girls and women from addressing it in a timely manner. Ectopic pregnancies will always exist. Complications and diseases will always exist that make abortion the safest and most effective manner of saving or preserving the life of the mother.
Oh yeah, none of your damn business what a woman chooses to do with her own body.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Self awareness is not very strong in this one.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
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Really, is this acceptable discourse now?What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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