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Brian Member (Idle past 4960 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi Charles,
I turned my computer on this morning and saw that there were a lot of messages posted since I was last here, I thought that Hydarnes had posted his dissertation! But what I saw is very very sad. I am amazed that adults reason in such a childish manner, what we have here are arguments that reflect the reasoning of an 11 year old child, or younger. I do not say this to be mean or nasty, this is a fact. Children argue with such writings as 'there was a man who said he could run faster than a horse so a man can run faster than a horse'. This is how children write, they think in concrete terms, they do not think about such things as how important it is to give the man's name, or where the race took place, or who witnessed it. It is intensely embarrassing to find adults so desperate. I, for one, am extremely bored by this whole thing. I am also dying from the worst hangover in the history of the world, so I am off to either: 1. Go back to bed2. Get ready and go to the pub 3. Puke up and die quietly Brian.
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
do all 3!
I have to head over to the office so I check in later and see how you can feeling.
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Trae Member (Idle past 4307 days) Posts: 442 From: Fremont, CA, USA Joined: |
quote: This is where you are wrong. Your approach is much like writing a story, having someone that does not know much about grammar proof it, and then telling everyone how your story is great. In peer review, pro evolutionists do not try to prove evolution. If you want to find mistakes, it does not make any sense to ask someone that does not believe their can be any mistakes to look over your work. That is a problem with your whole, Look at all the evidence approach. You really don’t look at all the evidence. You don’t ask if there are other nearby caves, you don’t ask if there really were 12 pillars, you don’t ask if the wells were really wells, you don’t even ask if the so-called altar is really an altar, you don’t ask if coral naturally takes on these shapes, you don’t ask if there were ships wreaked nearby, etc. You just take all these square pegs, shave the sides, get a huge hammer of wishful thinking and start pounding them into round holes.
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Trae Member (Idle past 4307 days) Posts: 442 From: Fremont, CA, USA Joined: |
quote: Yes, were I Wyatt I would be quite frustrated with his inadequacies. So he has the ability to extract detailed and informed information from individuals, but from cultures where greetings are rather formalized he cannot get a name?
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CK Member (Idle past 4128 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Is it just me who hears the fat lady singing?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Just noticed this one. So what you mean is that if you don't like what I say you'll start telling lies in the hope of bullying me into shutting up. I'm not impressed.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
In htis post Lysimachus quoted form a Wyatt newsletter.
http://EvC Forum: "The Exodus Revealed" Video II -->EvC Forum: "The Exodus Revealed" Video II At the end the following words appear:
quote: Claims that an unnamed Saudi Archaeologist said something are not "THOROUGH documentation". Yet we are asked to accept them as accurately representing the words of an expert in the field. This message has been edited by PaulK, 08-13-2004 06:31 AM
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Serves you right for drinking that Scottish muck. I`ll send you some Aussie beer to help with the hangover
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
So what else do we have that MIGHT prove Jabal el Lawz? Well, there`s the gold dust emema Moses whipped up, though I`d like to know how he reduced metal to drinkable dust with their technology. So, there has to be quite a bit of gold dust crapped out before they hitched the wagons and moved out.
Then, payback time, with 3000 bodies left in the vicinity Ex 32:28. Must be a few fossilised or coral-covered (just joking) relics left for confirmation. \ / \ / News Flash: Researchers have uncovered Ron Wyatt`s missing journals. Ron reported 'I have confirmed Jabal el Lawz is Mt.Sinai.I have found gold, lots of gold, gold as dusty as all getout. And I have found bones. Lotsa bones. Even heaps of bones. I counted 3000 skeletons exactly.Wait till I show this to those fools at EvC.' Researchers are not sure if Ron intended to deliver all the evidence or a video. |
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Actually, in real scientific investigation, people aren't "trying to prove" things. The fact that you indicate that this is what these people were doing just shows 1) that you don't know enough about the scientific process to have that be a red flag to you that they aren't doing science, and 2) they aren't doing science. In real scientific investigation, a hypothesis is constructed to try to explain some natural phenomena. Then, the hypothesis is tested to see if it holds up. Your folks have a preconceived idea of what they want the outcome to be, and they are ony interested in making a case for the results of testing to be what they want them to be. They do not include in their report, therefore, any problems or alternative explanation for why anything appears as it does. Take buz and the split rock nonsense. I have simply asked him how, if two samples were set down in front of me, I could tell which one was the special exodus kind and a regular split rock. I've asked him at least 3 times, and all he says is "it's obvious". Maybe I'm dense or something, but I have no idea what makes it "obvious" to him, and I wanted him to explain it to me. So far, no explanation. Why should I belive him if he can't even begin to explain why the split rocks are so different?
quote: Yeah, it sucks. Too bad.
quote: Maybe what happened is that there actually is no archaeologist.
quote: Poor Ron. The fact remains that you cannot use imaginary or unnamed people to support your arguments. THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS (or not) YOUR ARGUMENTS, not people.
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: That's what scientists do all the time, buz. Your problem is that the methodology of these people is clearly terrible. Anybody can understand bastic scientific methodology, which is why we are able to rip these "findings" up so easily. Remember what I said about the absence in this research report of potential falsifications, problems with the findings, and others' findings that contradict theirs? Remember how I explained how this kind of thing is found in every real scientific paper? While you chose to not address any of these points and instead handwave them away, they are most certainly part of the normal rigor of scientific methodology. From what we have seen so far, the methodology is so poor and the findings so cherry picked and biased towards a preconceived outcome that it is laughable.
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
hangover prevention:
before going to bed, drink as many glasses of water as you can possibly get down your neck. hangover cure: waterwater more water orange juice bananas ibuprofen
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Nothing is really going to be refuted here until someone from you all's camp is willing to spend some bucks, take some time and go out there and have a look Apparently, anyone can go look now that the Wyatt Museum offers guided tours of some of their sites for enugh cash safeco3 Furthermore, those chariot wheels are in a popular Middle Eastern diving spot and resort location. No one can go see those wheeles? Did swashbuckling Wyatt brave the poolside bar and Marguarita party before hopping on a banana-boat to go look for chariott wheels? This message has been edited by Yaro, 08-13-2004 09:46 AM
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You still don't understand.
C'mon give us a break and for once allow us the same leeway secularistic science uses in their pet hypotheses and theories. We will gladly give you exactly the same leeway. To support your hypothosis you need to:
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And if I read right, one un-named archeologist, an Arab, likely Muslim who knows full well that to work with Christians, it might be good for his physical welfare for him to remain anonymous. More silly crap and bullshit. MOSES is one of the Prophets of ISLAM. Ask any Imam. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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