What is GOD?

No, no-one is forcing you to suggest anything. I suggest you aren't carefully paying attention to what people say to you and that you also disregard logic when putting together your arguments. In every thread I've ever seen you have been handily refuted. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

People who accept the rationality of science and the fact and theory of evolution are not letting it rule their lives. I know it doesn't mine.Since the Bible is the only source of information on God, or so you would seem to claim, why is it not a faulty account if it cannot keep many people's attention when an alternative is provided?I suppose we shall never know, because Ol' MTW is running. Bye Bye. If you can't stand the heat, etc.About the irrefutably unrefuted thing... Your claim is laughable. Again, as has become a commom theme, just because MTW says it doesn't make it so.

Hi Ifen,I just want to say thanks a ton for patiently and persistently providing the Eastern view on these things. It took a while, but your message finally got through my thick skull. I have done just a tiny bit of reading on the internet in the last couple of days, and I can't really put into words the flood of new thoughts I'm having. They aren't so much new thoughts as just greatly clarified thoughts through a new viewpoint and a new vocabulary -- like only seeing an object from one direction and suddenly walking around it to see the whole thing. I am also excited to learn that many others have come to the same conclusions I have.All kinds of random passages from the Bible keep popping into my head and making connections with this Eastern doctrine. Many passages that didn't really make sense to me before are suddenly shining brilliantly with the truth.At present I cannot focus on reading anything, but as soon as the flood of thoughts subsides a little, I will be sure to check out this book by Bernadette Roberts. Thanks again.

Howdy Phatboy. I have a job... if you can call it that. I'm lifeguarding again this summer. I only get about 5 hours a day most days, and I don't do anything, but sit or stand there... gives me lots of time to think though!In my spare time I've been doing internet research, hanging out with old friends, watching movies, working out, shopping for a motorcycle (I'm getting a Kawasaki Ninja EX500 soon), helping the folks out with work around the house, trying to read a few classics though I keep getting distracted, and playing around on my Xanga blog.Life is purty dang good.

I feel after two OT posts that I should attempt to say something relevant to the thread, so I'll try and put into Eastern terms what I have struggled to get out before. I have copied this from my blog:Some say that truth doesn't exist, or if it does, it is unknowable. This philosophy stems from the mind's attachment to the physical world through naturalism or scientism. These say that if we are to apprehend truth, it is through the five senses or through logic based on assertions gathered from the five senses -- empiricism or rationalism.So long as we think this way, the Truth will elude us because we can always doubt whether the "things" that are percieved by our senses are real or illusory. And if they are real, there is no finding out what they truly are. We have busted up everything that is physical to the tiniest of bits yet our discovery seems as though it will never end in the holy grail of science: the Theory of Everything.Instead we must percieve everything as not a "thing", but a process. Truth is not to be found in the process. Truth IS the process. Truth cannot be percieved by our five senses because Truth IS the sensing. The mind cannot be used to discover The Mind because the mind IS the Mind.

Hangdawg,Is your blog by invitation only? Sounds like something I would enjoy reading.Sounds to me like you are, as I have been perceiving, really ripe for this viewpoint and I look forward to hearing where you go with this. But don't push the river your flowing is in perfect time.lfen

My blog is Hangdawg13 on xanga. I only put philosophical stuff on there half the time, and when I do, that is when I get the fewest comments... so I dunno if it is interesting or not, but its there if you want to read it.Edit: I spose I should post the link: http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Hangdawg13This message has been edited by Hangdawg13, 06-16-2005 12:36 AM