Yet another example of the hidden costs of Bush's Stupid War

These radios are probably 30 years old, or older. The war in Iraq is only a few years old. I find it hard to blame "Bush's stupid war" for not replacing these radios.And that is twice you have claimed that, and still done nothing to actually back it up.Is this the liberal cult of ignorance or something?Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

Excuse me? The stupid war carries a direct cost approaching a half Trillion Dollars so far, with absolutely no end in sight.So far we have spent over $430,000,000,000.00. That is four hundred and thirty BILLION dollars.Not one of those dollars was available to spend on anything of importance like updating infrastructure.If the for hundred and thirty billion dollars was NOT diverted to the Stupid war, where did it go?Was the equipment old, obsolete and outdated?Are you suggesting that someone JUST noticed?If that is the case then we should be firing the Commander in Chief.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

And so?The argument here is not whether the war is stupid or not. It is whether the cost of the war is preventing the national weather service from getting money to replace the forecast system.We were in debt before the war, and now even more in debt, so we have never really had enough money to replace the system.You still haven't shown, or the article, how the war is preventing us from upgrading our weather system now, or then. (then being relative to the war.)The article doesn't even indicate that they will have a problem getting the money either.The article is only asking, what kind of system should we upgrade to, based on who still uses what.A weather broadcast system does not need to be upgraded every few years. As a matter of fact, if we have a good working weather broadcast system, the last thing we want to do is mess with it, doesn't matter the age. Those radios might be better than anything that is made today.Imagine the complications is setting up a new system, and the danger involved if the new system fails. We are trillions of dollars in debt, so we never had it to begin with. Your the HF radio expert now, you tell us.
Do you even know what a HF radio is? What difference does that make?
The issue is being addressed now, for whatever reason. If there is a reason that correlates to the spending on the RECENT war, then show us. I am all open to it. Because we have a great weather broadcast system, that works fine?
And now that parts are no longer available, we are going to replace it?Give me a break.So you need to show 3 things.1. What was the age of the equipment
2. Was the amount of years in service not justified because of lack of funds due to too much spending on the current war.
3. Will the national weather service not be able to get the money, because we are spending too much on the war?I will remind you also, that here in America, we are innocent until proven guilty. You have shown nothing. You have only accused the spending of the war on the failure to replace the system (bogus) and blamed the whole thing on Bush (bogus again). You have only shown that the system needs to be replaced, and why, and that the Coast Guard is looking for comments from people who actually use the system, to see if it is still even necessary. (which I feel it is)

The point is that there is four hundred thirty BILLION dollars that is NOT available for use on things we need for only one reason, the Stupid War in Iraq.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Exactly! Energy independence is directly tied to national security and continued economic prosperity.The next presidency belongs to the candidate that can articulate a vision and credible plan to start us down the road to energy independence. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

Off-topic, but try telling that to husbands/fathers hit with Domestic Violence Orders (DVOs).

Even though I am not an accountant, I realize there was a lot more than that, not available, even before the stupid war.And that was not your original point.

Or parents accused of child abuse.Unfortunately, precautions must happen to be on the safe side. Doesn't make you guilty though.

I have been watching the summary of the debates among candidates, and I haven't heard anything mentioned about oil, or new technology.Just like when Kerry and Bush debated, they never talked about oil.Makes me think that oil rules everyone in power.

Totally irrelevant.The point is that there is over four hundred and thirty BILLION dollars that are not available to be used for things like upgrading the Coast Guard Marine Weather Report system solely because of the stupid war. It is not only my original point, it is my continuing point.One of the hidden costs of the Stupid War is that limited resources were diverted and cannot be used for things like upgrading the Weather Report System.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

For like the third time, you haven't shown that.The system will be upgraded, according to the article.

The fact is that the system has NOT been upgraded.The fact is that there is four hundred and thirty billion dollars so far that is NOT available for things like upgrading the system and that will NEVER be available.It was diverted to the Stupid War.The point is that there are additional hidden costs that result from Bush's Stupid War, and one major one is that limited resources were diverted from being used for things like the upgrade of the weather notification system and can NEVER be used for anything.Four Hundred and Thirty Billion Dollars so far.$430,000,000,000.00 So Far. What do you mean I haven't shown it. The money is GONE.Almost a half a trillion dollars.Gone.Wasted.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You haven't shown that the money used for the war, is preventing us from upgrading our forecast system, or the money spent on the RECENT war has anything to do with a radio system, that was working fine for many many years. And neither has the link shown that.You also have to show that the HF broadcast system needed to be replaced at about the same time the war started, and not now, when they are replacing it.Plus you are going to have to sell us on why the additional debt created by the war, is any worse than this debt, that we already had, and that increase is the reason why we can't get a new radio system (but we are)
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/Put up, or shut-up, liberal cult of ignorance.Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

Because, by your own words, it is ADDITIONAL DEBT. Pointless debt. Wasted resources. Stupid.Not just debt, debts are no big deal. That is totally irrelevant to the issue.The Stupid Bush War has wasted over Four Hundred and Thirty Billion Dollars.It is gone rRat. It cannot be used. And it is increasing every day,If people had stopped to think even a little bit about the Iraq War we would have $430,000,000,000.00 that could be directed towards other needed resources.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Listen jar, it is perfectly reasonable to think that our country being in debt is a concern for not upgrading these vital infrastructure systems. I am not debating that our country being in debt, or the money spent on the war is hurting us, that is plainly obvious.What you haven't shown for 29 posts now, is that the money in our national debt was keeping us from getting a new system. The article doesn't say that, and you haven't provided anything else that says that.It may be perfectly reasonable to assume, that the current radio system, has served us well, and right now is the time to replace, not 2-3 years ago or something.Plus you also have to show why $430,000,000,000.00 are keeping us from getting a new system (WHICH WE ARE) and not $ 8,844,212,999,544.66AND>>>> why the whole thing is completely Bush's fault.