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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So you have no support for the Bible being authoritative or inspired.
How do you explain the fact that there is not even one universal Canon? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I wanna see some examples of bad Bible translations next. Is the Brick Testament one? It's pretty literal, and may be even more popular with children than the GNT! Joshua 5:2-8 particularly!
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
John 10:10 writes:
And the Bible is sending the message about which truths to emphasize. They're getting different messages, which makes the Bible a pretty unreliable source. It's not the different plans of salvation in Christ Jesus which have resulted in so many different Christian denominations.It's more about the many different denominations emphasizing different truths about how to live godly in Christ Jesus. Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4210 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
They have not gotten to the end of life's journey yet, nor have they faced the final judgment. Providing there is such a thing as as a final judgment. Tiger wood broke the "11th" commandment. Thou shalt not get caught.
OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message by continuing in this vein. AdminPD Edited by AdminPD, : Warning There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3015 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Yes, the truth of Prov 28:13 caught up with Tiger,
"He who covers his sins will not prosper." Maybe he and others should take heed to the rest of the verse. "But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy. "
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3015 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
I hope you are as confident that it will never happen as I am confident that the Lord Jesus has "the keys of death and of Hades."
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
"He who covers his sins will not prosper." Yeah, poor Mr Woods is practically in bankruptcy.......
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3015 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
jar writes:
quote: Let's assume for a moment there was "one universal Cannon (Bible)." In order for everyone since New Testament times to be able to read this Bible, either everyone would have be able to read the Bible in this one universal Bible language, or this one universal Bible would have to be translated into the thousands of world languages. But God did not choose to reveal Himself to man in this way. God chose to reveal Himself to about 39 different writers in both the OT & NT, all leading to God's plan of salvation for man in Christ Jesus. The OT was written in Hebrew, and the NT in Greek. Since one universal language is not practical, Bible missionaries/translators have been taking the primary message of God's plan of salvation for man in Christ Jesus to the world's people for the last 2000 years. There are about 6900+ spoken languages in the world, with about 2000+ that have no portion of the Bible. You may disagree with the purpose and process of Christians doing this, or if they have done this accurately, that is your choice. But the only truth you will have to answer for is this: What did you do with God's plan of salvation in Christ Jesus that was offered to you?
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Let's assume for a moment there was "one universal Cannon (Bible)." We don't have to do that. We know for a fact that there is not "one universal Cannon (Bible)."
In order for everyone since New Testament times to be able to read this Bible, either everyone would have be able to read the Bible in this one universal Bible language, or this one universal Bible would have to be translated into the thousands of world languages. A Canon has nothing to do with language. It is only the list of which books are included. The rest of your post is irrelevant to the topic. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Kapyong Member (Idle past 3462 days) Posts: 344 Joined: |
Gday,
John10:10 writes: Let's assume for a moment there was "one universal Cannon (Bible)." Why?There is NO universal canon. There are several canons :* Catholic * Protestant * Orthodox * Ethiopic Why do you want to assume something that is not true? (And why did you change Jar's correct spelling of 'canon' into 'cannon'? Do you really not even know how to spell this word you are arguing about?)
John10:10 writes: In order for everyone since New Testament times to be able to read this Bible, either everyone would have be able to read the Bible in this one universal Bible language, Language has nothing to do with the canon - you have confused two completely different concepts. Kapyong Edited by Kapyong, : No reason given. Edited by Kapyong, : No reason given. Edited by Kapyong, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 10033 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
But God did not choose to reveal Himself to man in this way. God chose to reveal Himself to about 39 different writers in both the OT & NT, all leading to God's plan of salvation for man in Christ Jesus. The OT was written in Hebrew, and the NT in Greek. Men chose those books and writers. Men also chose to exclude many of those gospels, including the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary of Magdalene. There is no telling how many other gospels were excluded that we now have no record of.
What did you do with God's plan of salvation in Christ Jesus that was offered to you? The same thing that you are doing with the teachings of Buddha.
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lfen Member (Idle past 4697 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
I think it would be interesting but I don't know if it would be helpful to come up with a common denominator canon that comprises only those books that are found in each of the extant bibles. There could be a comparison of the versions of the individual books used.
Have those interested in ecumenical undertaken a project along those lines? Just curious what a least common denominator bible might look like. peace, lfen
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The only common denominator is the first five books of the OT. That is the Samaritan Orthodox Canon. It limits "Scripture" to those books that had likely been canonized at the time of Jesus.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3015 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
ringo writes,
quote:The Bible does no such thing. The Bible is God's "whole counsel" on how God has chosen to reveal Himself to man, and how man can come into right relationship with Him through the Lord Jesus Christ. There will be only one denomination that will live with God forever, those that have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
John 10:10 writes:
That's even worse than what I said. If only one denomination is getting The Right Answer™ out of the Bible, then the Bible is even more unreliable than I thought. (What denomination would that be, anyway?) ringo writes:
The Bible does no such thing. The Bible is God's "whole counsel" on how God has chosen to reveal Himself to man, and how man can come into right relationship with Him through the Lord Jesus Christ. There will be only one denomination that will live with God forever, those that have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. And the Bible is sending the message about which truths to emphasize. They're getting different messages, which makes the Bible a pretty unreliable source. Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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