Where should there be "The right to refuse service"?

Sure redefine the religion that built western civilization, whose members are DOING NOTHING BUT OBEYING THE SAME GOD WE'VE OBEYED FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS, make up a new category of protected class that has been regarded for millennia as a sin, even by nonreligious people as aberrant, and all you've done is create a new criminal class out of good people. So be proud of your wonderful accomplishment while Christians sing hymns in jail. Blech.

Uh, yes they are. The fact you can't see it speaks volumes

And by the actions of these "good people" we see that they are not at all.

I strongly suspect that in some areas there is not a "somewhere else" alternative.And if there is indeed a "somewhere else", probably substantial numbers of straight customers are probably also going to choose to go "somewhere else".I don't think it will be good for your business, to develop a reputation that you treat some people unfairly.Moose

The very idea that taking a stand against gay marriage on the basis of God's word is unfair is worse than unfair, it's diabolical.I'm far more interested in obeying God and honoring His law, far more interested inwhat's good for my soul and my eternal life than what's good for my business or even my general wellbeing in this life, and all true Christians feel this way. So I've made my case and that's that. If a majority think like EvC, way it goes.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

More bullshit Faith.Your true Christians are just ignorant bigots trying to make their bigotry feel good.There is nothing in the Bible that says don't bake a cake for a same sex marriage.

This is why we have secular laws, to protect society from those that would do it harm because of their personal delusions. Feel free to put the salvation of your imaginary soul ahead of the good of humanity generally, but do us a favour, quit whining about the earthly consequenes. (Which appear to be that you may possibly get to have to bake a cake for people you don't like or suffer a small fine. Crucifixion it ain't.)Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Save us, dear Lord, from those who would save us.

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Arthur Hoppe, On the Death of Robert Kennedy
San Francisco Chronicle, 1968

That's a long time to be so wrong about so many things. You really oughta fix that. Proud that we are finally letting an oppressed people free to enjoy their humanity in all its aspects, yes. Not so proud that we have to fight entrenched bigots, my fellow Americans, to get this accomplished.Sing your hymns, Faith, but not so loud or you'll wake the lions too early. Edited by AZPaul3, : splng

Is that true?? It seems to me that if that were true there would be a whole lot looking for the log in your own eye.

Obeying God is never a log in one's eye, much as some here try to make it so.

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I'm far more interested in obeying God and honoring His law,

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And the Bible says that if you break the secular law you deserve what you get.

Where did God say "Don't bake a cake for a same sex wedding?"AbE: I think a relevant passage that shows how the God character in the Bible would view the issue of baking a cake for a same sex marriage can be found in 2 Kings 5:

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15 And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

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16 But he said, As the Lord liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none. And he urged him to take it; but he refused.

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17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the Lord.

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18 In this thing the Lord pardon thy servant, that when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the Lord pardon thy servant in this thing.

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19 And he said unto him, Go in peace. So he departed from him a little way.

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Here, Naaman says that he will only worship the Israeli deity but since he lives and is the servant of a man who worships a different deity asks if it would be acceptable for Naaman to accompany his master, to aid his master and to even bow down in the temple of the other deity and the response is "Sure, go in peace".It seems that God thinks courtesy. faithfulness and good manners are more important than refusing service to others.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

It's kind of implied. If a couple are planning a same-sex wedding the good christians are supposed to stone them to death. That sort of precludes baking them a cake.

Would YOU have second thoughts if it DIDN'T happen?Because it didn't happen yesterday, or the day before that or the day before that.... How many times does it have to NOT happen before YOU have second thoughts?