Christmas Star Explained

Tell us, then how much latin, and Greek were around when the scriptures of Genesis, and numbers were written?? Work on that.

Can you show me where it 'rested' ON the stable??? You can't be serious??As for your opinion of what you heard the wise men were, add that to the list of unknowns.Now, I never heard of this mithraic star you refer to. I have heard of the Christmas star, as have most people, I would think.It could not have been a planet or star, or comet, or etc. Not if you look what this thing did. That is the point.

it wasn't a star. it was the normal astrological night sky. you've hear of the age of aquarius? same deal, just the end of the age of tarus and the rise of i think it was mars.

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The records of the area were controlled by those that had Jesus killed, and the bible documents the fact they tried to hire liars to say He never arose, and other things. They were known liars, and no doubt their records reflected that. Much the same way that the defeated Egyptians of old likely purged their records of their abject defeat at God's hands!

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Rubbish. Firstly if nobody knew that it had happened then the author of Matthew couldn't have known that it happened. Secondly Herod never had that degree of control.As for the Egyptians if you really think that a crushed Egypt could purge the records of rival states or hide all the archaeological evidence you're just being silly.So all you've got is lame excuses to try and explain away the fact that the evidence doesn't support you. Even then you have to ignore some of the evidence.

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Rubbish. Firstly if nobody knew that it had happened then the author of Matthew couldn't have known that it happened. Secondly Herod never had that degree of control.

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Rubbish. WE knew, and WE had records coming out the keester. OUR records WE kept, and God kept, and they were not subject to the wily wicked ways of men. We knew just fine, we touched Him saw, and heard Him, and knew Him, and all about the events of the time.
Secondly, Herod was not who I was talking about, if he was even alive when the official records of the star were expunged, if they were.Like the veil of the temple being rent, that was never put of the Jewish records of the time either. We have the records, though.

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As for the Egyptians if you really think that a crushed Egypt could purge the records of rival states or hide all the archaeological evidence you're just being silly.

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Prove it. I don't believe you.

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So all you've got is lame excuses to try and explain away the fact that the evidence doesn't support you. Even then you have to ignore some of the evidence.

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If you are talking about the topic, the starship of God, there is no evidence other than the bible, that I have seen. What is there to ignore?? Focus. If you are claiming some evidence show us. Otherwise, what is it you are talking about??

OK, so the ages of the horoscope you think was the Christmas star now?

that would be what i said the first time. and it's not something i came up with on my own.i'm sure an alien saucer is a much better explanation.

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Rubbish. WE knew, and WE had records coming out the keester. OUR records WE kept, and God kept, and they were not subject to the wily wicked ways of men. We knew just fine, we touched Him saw, and heard Him, and knew Him, and all about the events of the time.

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What records ? If you have so many records where are they ? All you have is one story, that is probably just a fiction.

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Secondly, Herod was not who I was talking about, if he was even alive when the official records of the star were expunged, if they were.

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Herod is the only person who fits your description. Later authorities would be in no position to connect the alleged star to Jesus. But then there's no evidence that there were any official records.

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Prove it. I don't believe you.

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If Egypt lost a large portion of its army and population (don't forget that the Exodus supposedly took 2,000,000 people out of Egypt - itself a large fraction of the population on top of the supposed deaths) then it would be in no position to force other nations to hide the fact. How could it be ? Rather we should see other nations taking advantage of Egypt's greatly weakened state. And how can you hide a population crash ?But never mind that. It's up to you to prove that we should trust Matthew's story. Not invent excuses to explain away the evidence against it.

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If you are talking about the topic, the starship of God, there is no evidence other than the bible, that I have seen. What is there to ignore?? Focus. If you are claiming some evidence show us. Otherwise, what is it you are talking about??

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The evidence you are ignoring is in the Bible. Luke's Nativity story. It's too different from Matthew's. It is evidence that Matthew's story is fiction.

I am pointing out that the 'life of Christ' as depicted by Matthew appears to be a political commentary on the life of Augustus.Can you give me a reason other than 'Satan is a deceiver' or 'God did it' for the strong similarities of the cult of Augustus to the story of Jesus as depicted in the Gospel of Matthew?

Funny you add alien to something that God used to fly around in.

*blinks*yeah. weeeooooweeeee!

Nonsense. The long awaited Messiah had nothing to do with your whatshisname. The fulfilled scriptures of virgin birth, Bethlehem birth, and etc had to do with God promising stuff, and delivering.

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What records ? If you have so many records where are they ? All you have is one story, that is probably just a fiction.

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Our records were eventually compiled into the bible. This is news?

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Herod is the only person who fits your description. Later authorities would be in no position to connect the alleged star to Jesus. But then there's no evidence that there were any official records.

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Of course they would, the scribes and pharisees knew all about these things.

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If Egypt lost a large portion of its army and population (don't forget that the Exodus supposedly took 2,000,000 people out of Egypt - itself a large fraction of the population on top of the supposed deaths) then it would be in no position to force other nations to hide the fact. How could it be ? Rather we should see other nations taking advantage of Egypt's greatly weakened state. And how can you hide a population crash ?

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What other nations were there in Egypt, while they were getting clobbered??? Who do you think they wanted to hide it FROM??!

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But never mind that. It's up to you to prove that we should trust Matthew's story. Not invent excuses to explain away the evidence against it.

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No need to prove the bible here, it is assumed true. You can assume what you like. What we are looking at is the bible Christmas star, and what it really was, not whether it really was.The only real evidence I can think of outside the bible, is the lack of evidence for the star, which IS evidence it was not a modern sense star!

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The evidence you are ignoring is in the Bible. Luke's Nativity story. It's too different from Matthew's. It is evidence that Matthew's story is fiction.

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What in Luke do you think means that the star was not a starship??

jefferson starship?

I agree. The size wasn't, if I recall given in Ezekiel. Imagine one of these about 6 times the size of a football field!