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jar
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Message 106 of 325 (404935)
06-10-2007 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by RAZD
06-10-2007 5:20 PM


Re: Toxic Waste

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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RAZD
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Message 107 of 325 (404940)
06-10-2007 6:06 PM
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06-10-2007 5:47 PM


Re: Toxic Waste
faster than a speeding paradigm shift
taller than a creatortionista myth
its
its
wonderful. thanks.
Edited by RAZD, : .

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


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jar
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Message 108 of 325 (404941)
06-10-2007 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by RAZD
06-10-2007 6:06 PM


Re: Toxic Waste

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Tusko
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Message 109 of 325 (404946)
06-10-2007 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by RAZD
06-10-2007 5:20 PM


Toxic Avenger?
That's one great photo.
That's one fantastic nipple.
Keep up the good work!

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RAZD
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Message 110 of 325 (405057)
06-11-2007 1:06 AM
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06-10-2007 6:21 PM


Toxic Avengers?
how about a "man with no name" version?
Edited by RAZD, : .

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


• • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •

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Tusko
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Message 111 of 325 (405080)
06-11-2007 7:07 AM
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06-11-2007 1:06 AM


Your Wish...
Edited by Tusko, : i haven't done this image business before and it all went wrong
Edited by Tusko, : Oh god, I'm tinkering now.
Edited by Tusko, : RAZD asked me to.

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RAZD
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Message 112 of 325 (405090)
06-11-2007 7:48 AM
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06-11-2007 7:07 AM


Re: Your Wish...
cool thanks

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Buzsaw
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Message 113 of 325 (405228)
06-11-2007 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by nator
06-09-2007 11:20 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
I've furnished the info for RAZD to do what he wishes about. Your questions are thread topics in themselves and I haven't the time to go into all the question topics you raise. My statements are my opinion based on my experience with alternatives in general as to how they've helped me and my family avoid the MDs nearly all my life, in the 70s now, still physically active and productive.
I've observed and heard about scores of others who have likewise been benefited.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 114 of 325 (405230)
06-11-2007 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by molbiogirl
06-09-2007 11:54 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
How can you do a placebo or similar double blind study on a lifetime process wholistically involving all the systems of the body and including all of one's diet, exercise and habits, et al?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 115 of 325 (405239)
06-11-2007 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by RAZD
06-10-2007 11:03 AM


Re: Double Blind Study
I've made some suggestions which I believe to be beneficial to you since you're highly esteemed by me and others here at EvC so I didn't want to remain silent on something that may help save your life or make your ordeal a little less trumatic.
One alternative professional said something to the effect that if you keep doing what you've always done which lead to poor health, poor health will always be your lot.
I had a bad start in life with poor health when young. Thankfully I learned how to overcome my health problems with the wholistic approach. So you might say I'm just a beggar who found bread telling another beggar where I found it. At least you have a good positive attitude and appear to be 'keeping your chin up. That's for sure good medicine

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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crashfrog
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Message 116 of 325 (405242)
06-11-2007 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Buzsaw
06-11-2007 11:21 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
How can you do a placebo or similar double blind study on a lifetime process wholistically involving all the systems of the body and including all of one's diet, exercise and habits, et al?
Surely the benefits would be perceptible out at the 10 or 25 year range? Longitudinal studies of that duration are not uncommon.

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Buzsaw
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Message 117 of 325 (405243)
06-11-2007 11:58 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Asgara
06-10-2007 12:36 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
Thanks Asgara. I stand corrected. I'm likely thinking of Deborah Ray's deceased husband who I believe was a heart surgeon in a large hospital. He used to be on her show regularly. His name was Dr Carrow.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 118 of 325 (405245)
06-12-2007 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by crashfrog
06-11-2007 11:56 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
I'm not aware of any, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that healthy natural eating and habits win out over the conventional diet full of chemical, drugs and junk food. The 7th Day Adventists who tend towards the alternatives natural food et al are on example of a long term statistical study compared with the general population. I believe they're one of the healthiest groups in the nation.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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crashfrog
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Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 119 of 325 (405254)
06-12-2007 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by Buzsaw
06-12-2007 12:05 AM


Re: Double Blind Study
I'm not aware of any, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that healthy natural eating and habits win out over the conventional diet full of chemical, drugs and junk food.
Buz, eveything's a chemical. But just being "more healthy" doesn't automatically translate into a greater risk of cancer.
I believe they're one of the healthiest groups in the nation.
That sounds like a Buzsaw Fact, like "the sun is causing global warming." Do you have some evidence on that? What groups were tested?

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RAZD
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Posts: 20714
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Message 120 of 325 (405305)
06-12-2007 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by Buzsaw
06-11-2007 11:50 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
I've made some suggestions which I believe to be beneficial to you since you're highly esteemed by me and others here at EvC so I didn't want to remain silent on something that may help save your life or make your ordeal a little less trumatic.
Thanks Buz, I appreciate it. I am actually doing quite well now with the treatment phase over and the recovery phase going well (no sores or fevers or other problems) and it looks like discharge either wed or thur this week. Then it will be a matter of further longer term recovery at home, to regain strength, and to continue rebuilding my immune system. There is a good possibility that all cancerous cells were killed in the process, but we won't know for some time if that is so.
I have no doubt that some alternative methods will continue to show positive effects on overal health. The problem is sorting the wheat from the chaff until those studies show results (and yes double blind studies have been done that cover decade of time).
Edited by RAZD, : .

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


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