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Author Topic:   Robin Collins and the Many Universes -- Part II
NosyNed
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Message 1 of 7 (150958)
10-18-2004 9:46 PM


This thread is a continuation of
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crashfrog
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Message 2 of 7 (150966)
10-18-2004 10:08 PM


Get specific here. How is the ecosystem supposed to have evolved?
Pretty standard ecology. Massive, double-ended floating trees and other kinds of free-floating, air-root, succulent vegitation collect random drops of water and provide the primary caloric input into the system from the light of the star. Secondary and tertiary consumers round out the system; they're adapted so that they can "swim" through the air in freefall. The trees are long enough that tidal forces on the ends give you a bit of gravity at either end; this is where the humans live. Bacteria and other microbes form the majority of biomass, as they do on Earth; they're airborne just like they are here.
In other words, life adapts to a lack of gravity. It could happen. Probably not just like that, but it is a universe of wonders, after all.
BTW, Crash, I think you've got a little spot of brown on your nose......might wanna take a wet nap to that........
And you've pretty much got a huge bulls-eye on your chest. You might want to be careful about how you act around here. Supporting your statements would help; abandoning this ridiculous charade about not meaning what we know you meant (after all, you repeated yourself several times) would be a good start.

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Message 3 of 7 (151014)
10-19-2004 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by crashfrog
10-18-2004 10:08 PM


You response is not acceptable.
Yes sa, Massa, Is nevah do it again.......
Are you typos acceptable? Or did you guys make up an arbitrary rule about that too?
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Message 4 of 7 (151022)
10-19-2004 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by crashfrog
10-18-2004 10:08 PM


Pretty standard ecology. Massive, double-ended floating trees and other kinds of free-floating, air-root, succulent vegitation collect random drops of water and provide the primary caloric input into the system from the light of the star. Secondary and tertiary consumers round out the system; they're adapted so that they can "swim" through the air in freefall. The trees are long enough that tidal forces on the ends give you a bit of gravity at either end; this is where the humans live. Bacteria and other microbes form the majority of biomass, as they do on Earth; they're airborne just like they are here.
Are you certain this is based on real science? Because I've never heard the theory that a star could have a life-supporting atmosphere proposed before.........would the life, theoretically speaking, have been able to evolve into intelligence? You named "secondary and tertiary" life forms, which I assume would be animal life......who would need oxygen. Could the atmosphere provide it? Also, I thought solar winds destroyed the atmosphere.......or do neutron stars not have solar wind? Also, could there be enough water there to support an ecosystem? Oh, one more thought........wouldn't any atmosphere thick enough to support life get sucked right into the star?
I can find no obvious holes in this theory.......it seems sound to me. But it's a moot point anyway, since greater or lesser gravity would prevent the formation of either our kind of sun or neutron stars with an atmosphere around it, because if gravity was a little greater, the universe would've just collapsed back into itself........and a little lighter and enough matter wouldn't have come together to form ANY type of star.
abandoning this ridiculous charade about not meaning what we know you meant (after all, you repeated yourself several times) would be a good start.
I must've forgot that part of English class where they teach that any statement repeated or placed in all caps must be literal.......
In that case, I apologize for suggesting that your questions literally ride on a small bus to school every morning........
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crashfrog
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Message 5 of 7 (151076)
10-19-2004 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by JasonChin
10-19-2004 4:49 AM


Are you certain this is based on real science?
I don't think anybody's proposed that it is a likelyhood, but it could happen. Under the right conditions - in this case, a gas giant orbiting a neutron star inside of the Roche limit - you'd get an enormous toroid of gas in orbit around a star. It's own gravity would give a fairly substantial pressure towards the middle.
Because I've never heard the theory that a star could have a life-supporting atmosphere proposed before........
So? You had never heard of the two-slit experiment, either.
Could the atmosphere provide it?
No, the plant life provides it, like on our planet.
or do neutron stars not have solar wind?
Not to any significant degree. Their mass is so great that not much escapes their surface.
Also, could there be enough water there to support an ecosystem?
Well, the composition of gas giants is mostly hydrogen and oxygen, so yes, I imagine there would be.
wouldn't any atmosphere thick enough to support life get sucked right into the star?
No more than Earth gets sucked into the sun. The gas is in orbit.
I must've forgot that part of English class where they teach that any statement repeated or placed in all caps must be literal.......
It's called "emphasis." Why did you employ it if not to emphasize your meaning? You weren't speaking figuratively; you were using plain English. You didn't use some kind of metaphor that we misunderstood. Literality doesn't come into it. You said something that was flat-out wrong, and for some reason, you think its better to pretend you don't know how to speak English or are an idiot than to admit you made a bonehead mistake and let it go.
This doesn't give anyone much confidence that you're here to have discussions; you're just here to fuck around. That's pretty obvious, at this point.

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AdminNosy
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Message 6 of 7 (151078)
10-19-2004 12:05 PM
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10-19-2004 4:49 AM


Once too often
Given you lack of knowledge in the many areas that are being discussed it would be appropriate to be a little more humble and polite to those trying to help you learn.
To enforce to those helpers that you do, in fact, need the help this forum is being moved to the boot camp where you will have a more focussed opportunity to learn.

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Message 7 of 7 (151081)
10-19-2004 12:06 PM


Thread copied to the Robin Collins and the Many Universes -- Part II thread in the Boot Camp forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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