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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
3. Almost everything is evolving according to natural law: from the expanding universe, to the death of stars, to the changing chemistry of the Earth's atmosphere. Is life the only thing that doesn't evolve by natural law -- requiring the continual "tinker toying" of God? sure, but that's not evolution.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
gnojek may not know, but i do.
Why do we have a seven day week? one for every planet, one for the sun, and one for the moon. planet - english - latin - frenchmars = tuesday - martis - mardi mercury = wednesday - mercurii - mercredi jupiter = thursday - jovis - jeudi venus = friday - veneris - vendredi saturn = saturday - saturni - samedi the sun = sunday - solis - dimanche the moon = monday - lunae - lundi see the correlations? this system was proposed by persian astronomers, to the romans who adopted and integrated it into their julian calendar in the first century ad. christianity was adopted by rome almost 250 years later, but it fit seamlessly, and has since been confused. it's simply a coincidence that the bible chooses the same number of days we do. in reality, a week has no astrological significance. it could be any number of days, really. althought it usually somewhat coincides with the cycles of the moon. but only somewhat.
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gnojek Inactive Member |
I know you just meant in the English language that Tuesday is Tuesday, but the names in English don't come from the planets, they come from names of Norse gods.
Tuesday = Tew's DayWednesday = Woden's Day Thursday = Thor's Day Friday = Freya's Day The rest came from Moon, Sun, Saturn, of course. Here's a webpage: The Seven-Day Week and the Meanings of the Names of the Days I think it's interesting that the Norse and Greeks/Romans had similar gods for similar purposes. This message has been edited by gnojek, 06-08-2005 05:23 PM
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Hi, gnojek.
The days of the week were originally named for the Roman gods. When Christian missionaries introduced the calendar to the Anglo-Saxons, the names of the days were changed to what they felt were the closest equivalent Anglo-Saxon gods.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
but the names in English don't come from the planets, they come from names of Norse gods. yes, that's why i put the latin and french equivalents, alongside the english. (and what chiroptera said). but thanks for picking up what i left out.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4979 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi G,
I dunno, why is everyone on the planet now going by the Christian calendar? Even Muslims? Ask a Chinese or a Jew what year it is. 2005 A.D. they'll say. I don't know where you got this information from, but it is inaccurate. Muslims do not subscibe to the Christian dating system. Muslims take their date from the time of Muhammad's migration from Mecca to Medina, a journey referred to as 'hijrah'. Their system uses AH (after hijrah) and not AD. Chinese have a calendar going way back thousands of years before the BC AD system was invented. They have a year of the monkey, dragon, rabbit etc, but no year of Jesus. Jews also do not subscribe to the Christian system, why on Earth would they? The date today for Jews is '1st of Sivan, 5765', here is a link to a converter from Jewish date to Gregorian. I think you will also find that B.C. and A.D. are slowly going out of use, and are being replaced by the more politically correct BCE and CE. Brian.
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Siguiendo la verdad Inactive Member |
Maybe I should have been more specific.
Why do we (westerners) subsribe to a seven day week. As far as I know, there is no natural reason for doing this. The year is based on the earth's rotation around the sun, the months is based on the phases of the moon, and a day is based on one full rotation of earth on its axis. Please correct me if I am wrong on any of these.
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
How many days are there in a lunar month? I'd swing a wild guess that a lunar month was divided into 4 weeks of 7 days each.
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Siguiendo la verdad Inactive Member |
This is off topic in this thread! Please do not respond further.
Then why do we have months with 31 days and months with 30 days and february with 28? This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 06-10-2005 12:54 PM
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Siguiendo la verdad Inactive Member |
I think that the beginning of this thread stated that it was common sense that evolution has occured.
Well, then, shouldn't it be common sense that people know why we use a seven day week, that is not based on natural occurances. If this is off topic, then can we move it to a new topic or is there one that already exists? I think the seven day week correlates with the way God made us, and is proof for the Genesis account.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
You may, if you wish, propose a topic on this in the PNT.
Or refer to this thead
Message 114 You may add to it if you don't think it has been finished. I found this by using the Search function with "lunar month seven 7 day week" as input. This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 06-11-2005 09:33 AM
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Siguiendo la verdad Inactive Member |
Thank you, I wish that the people, who are the same people in that thread, had pointed me there.
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gnojek Inactive Member |
I understand that there are different calendars, and most definitley, Muslims follow the Islamic calander so they can have their holidays ar the right time, but Internationally, the christian calendar is used.
It's the same phenomenon as most people in international business speaking English. If there is some international transaction, which dating system is used? The "common era" system. The UN uses it, most, if not all, countries use it in international affairs and trade, if I'm not mistaken. They celebrated the Millenium in Cairo, Tokyo, along the great wall of China, and all around the world.
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routerx Inactive Member |
I don’t have all the answers in the creation versus evolution debate and I continue to study it but I do have a problem man being included within model of evolution for a very specific reason:
Name me any animal in the history of recorded time that has tried to deny, through action or language, that it is, in fact, an animal. Scientists have spent hundreds of years on formal research of animals and they have never found a case of a large portion of an animal species showing signs that they are denying that they are animals or worshipping a god. I deny that I am an animal. I worship God. I know of millions of other humans who also deny they are an animal and also worship God. So, based on this information, now we have a choice: a) If we are to believe evolution theory incorporates man: Because a large amount of humans are denying their animal nature, they are doing something that no other animal has ever done.b) If we believe creationism incorporates man: We were created by God. c) Some other scientific theory This message has been edited by routerx, 07-09-2005 12:33 AM This message has been edited by routerx, 07-09-2005 12:35 AM
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