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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Visit Slate.com and if you're using an ad blocker you'll see this message at the bottom of your browser window:
We noticed you’re using an ad blocker. Support Slate’s journalism and help us reduce our dependence on advertising join Slate Plus! If you join Slate Plus you gain access to a version of Slate with no advertising. Well, at $50/year I'm not going to do that. I like to read Slate content from time to time, but not often enough to pay $50/year. For me this is true for almost all pay sites or sites with a pay alternative. If I joined every website that has occasional content I find interesting the cost would be over $1000 a year. I therefore think advertising is reasonable. So why do I have an ad blocker? It's a relatively recent addition from several months ago. For years I put up with websites that have obnoxious advertising consisting of things like popups that have to be closed or videos that start up without request and have to be stopped. It was annoying but endurable. But finally the ads at one website (Boston Herald Sports) became so obnoxious that the site became unreadable. You literally could not get through an article without being interrupted several times. Once you finished the article if you left the webpage up then videos and ads would start up at random times, so when done you always had to close the webpage. Because I'm interested in the local sports teams, and because the Herald has the best sports page (The Boston Globe's sport page is a very weak sister), I didn't want to stop reading the Herald, so I installed an ad blocker. So when Slate appeals to readers to disable their ad blockers because advertising pays the bills, they should really be appealing to all those obnoxious websites out there that force people to install ad blockers. --Percy
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
we're both disabled, and I change her lighbulbs. ... I have to ask.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Here is one of my favorite sites take on ad blockers:
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quote: Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Visit Slate.com and if you're using an ad blocker you'll see this message at the bottom of your browser window: Or in a popup window that obscures the article. I figure they don't want my business and look elsewhere for similar content. I think ads are obscene, especially the ones that have slide shows that slide as you try to read or type. My bank is a real offender, the background picture slides while you are typing your password. Are they trying to make people ADHD? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
The whole world's gone ADHD. Been to a live sporting event recently?
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
At heart this thread is about my love/hate affair with the Internet. On the one hand I love it because I can communicate, fetch and exchange information anywhere and anytime around the world. On the other hand I hate it because it keeps pressuring me to transition to ridiculously small form factors while making myself accessible to anyone and anything at all times, and to interact with the web in unfamiliar ways.
I've resisted the transition in any significant way to small form factors, i.e., to cell phones and tablets. I strongly dislike pecking away on a tiny unfeeling keyboard when my fingers, when properly positioned, know where every key is, including the number keys, which are missing on the main keyboard of cell phones and tablets. I tend to do 99% of my typing on my computer's wonderful keyboard, which has great tactile response, the numbers where they belong, and even a numeric keypad. I used to think that ingenuity and creativity were primarily forces for improvement and advancement, but that was before the Internet of the last 10 or 15 years. I have nothing against ingenuity and creativity, but on the recent Internet it seems that many want to start with a blank slate and reinvent even the most basic concepts. It's as if in the days of radio some manufacturers had decided to become creative by putting the higher frequency stations on the left instead of the right and have the volume control make counter-clockwise be louder. One of the great utilities of old radios is that a quick clockwise twist of the volume knob turned the radio on and set the volume. Imagine the incredible annoyance if some radios suddenly worked the opposite. Facing a particular radio for the first time you'd never know if you were turning the volume up or down. I like Pandora for music, which allows you to create stations seeded with songs and artists you like. I've been using it since 2010, it's by far my music app of choice, but it has a tendency to become repetitive. The songs I heard yesterday I will hear again tomorrow and the next day and the next day. So I keep auditioning other apps, like Spotify and Rhapsody and iTunes and others. All have had flaws, but I keep looking. Apple has rebooted their attempt at a music app with what they call Apple Music. On my computer I access it through iTunes (I haven't tried it on my tablet yet). At $9.99/month or $120/year it's more expensive than Pandora (only $48/year) but it offered a 3-month free trial, so I'm giving it a try. I gave Apple Music a try in it's previous incarnation (was it called Beats?), which was free, and the new Apple Music is much the same, but without the numerous bugs. You can define stations in a way similar to Pandora, but there can be only a single seed. You choose a group or song or artist, and that's the seed for that station. It plays music similar to that choice, but you can't broaden or narrow your choice with additional seeds, so you're left trying to find that one precise song that exactly characterizes the music you'd like to hear. In practice this means you're constantly creating new stations. Stations are displayed in the order of most recent play, so ones you stop playing eventually roll off the end of your list. You can't edit or delete stations, and you can't order them or organize them into categories. The reality is that after even just a few hours you can no longer remember what kind of station you were trying to create when you created the "Gennadi Cherkasov Radio" station, or even who Gennadi Cherkasov is, so trying to remember you click the station again, which rolls it right to the front of your list. Could Apple just please let me delete the damn thing? No, of course not. Apple has engaged their ingenuity and creativity to reinvent a great deal and not only do it their way, but in a way no one else has done it. And this is what is wrong with much of today's Internet. In the days of radio I could walk up to any radio and instantly have music or news or sports emerge, but in this day of the Internet walking up to any music/radio website or app requires a period of training and acclimation. It takes a while before music or news or sports you actually want emerges.
Brazil is a movie from the 1980's about a future era when technology has overwhelmed our ability to keep it in check, to the point where it's sophistication has become a detriment both in terms of using it and maintaining it. With regard to the Internet we have attained the world of Brazil. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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I've been fighting passwords since before there was an Internet. At first, going back over 40 years, I only needed one password. The instructions were that passwords should be impossible to guess or figure out, they should never be told to anyone, and they should never be written down. I had one of those passwords, and then many years ago my workplace implemented a policy change that forced a change of passwords every 70 days. I argued that the more frequently people changed passwords the more they would be forced to write them down, and the more often people would find themselves locked out of their accounts, but naturally to deaf ears.
Then the Internet came along with increasing numbers of websites requiring passwords, and as the password requirements became more stringent and varied, people had too many passwords to remember. Though browsers began offering to save website passwords for you, and though concepts like password vaults were developed, and though you still weren't supposed to write passwords down, that's what many people did. Today I accessed my propane supplier website, and they said it was time to choose a new password. When I was done it said, "Please record your password so you can log in again in the future." Nice to see a website admit the password situation is bad enough that remembering them is impossible. Passwords are a hassle. I hope we eventually come up with a better way. --Percy
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
I signed up for the new government service this week - do these people not read the things they write?
Your password must be between 9 and 16 characters long and contain a mixture of upper and lower case letters, numbers and a special character (!,@,#,$,%,^,&,*). For maximum security your Password should not: Have two repeating charactersInclude the user name as part of the Password Use dictionary/common words Use words/common phrases with substituted numbers for characters e.g. he110 for hello. But above all make it easy to remember and keep it in a safe place. It must be changed every 90 days.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member
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So somehow I got linked to the Forbes website, and they won't even let me in without turning off my ad blocker.
Forbes So now instead of having a "bad" customer, they have no customer at all! Dumbasses.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member
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I signed up for the new government service this week - do these people not read the things they write? Your password must be between 9 and 16 characters long and contain a mixture of upper and lower case letters, numbers and a special character (!,@,#,$,%,^,&,*). For maximum security your Password should not: Have two repeating charactersInclude the user name as part of the Password Use dictionary/common words Use words/common phrases with substituted numbers for characters e.g. he110 for hello. But above all make it easy to remember and keep it in a safe place. It must be changed every 90 days. Have you considered, instead of memorizing a string of characters for your password, using a pattern of keys on the board? Like: draw two doughnuts and hold the shift button for one of them? For example: press '345tgfde', then hold shift and press '567ujhgt'. The password will come out as: 345tgfde%^&UJHGT It'll meet all the requirements and it's actually really easy to input. Also you don't ever have to remember what the password actually is, you just have to remember how to make it. Too, if you're writing it down then it'll still be encoded: "doughnuts 3 and 5, lower - upper" You can also do things like: "987, lower upper lower" For that you can just start at 9 and move down the board, then do 8 and then do 7, hold shift for the middle one: 9ijn*UHB7ygv If you're good enough you can just do three "swipes" down the board and get all the keys pressed. Super simple yet still secure.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
I've heard that password hackers and hacking programs are aware of keyboard progression strategies.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
So how do you remember the strategy? It seems that every site that wants a password thinks that you only have one - I have literally hundreds.
Whilst we're waiting for a solution, I think a long site specific phrase is best. DarwinGive$G0DaH3adAche Macs have the keychain which means you can find any password you've used which is pretty useful. If you encrypt the drive, put a 15 minute timeout on it for no use, and have a long phrase to get into it and you're pretty safe and only marginally inconvenienced.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1046 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
The problem with this strategy is that not every keyboard is laid out the same, especially when you're getting into extraneous punctuation buttons. The problem is worsened if you find yourself trying to use a public computer where the programmed keyboard layout (as opposed to the physical shape) is different too.
My biggest gripe with passwords is why we need so many of them. There's a website I use for live football scores, primarily because it shows me which games are on TV in this country (including foreign channels you can pick up through an aerial in some parts of the country). I have an account so I can change the default layout. My account contains no information about me, and there is no money involved (the site being paid for by extensive advertising for gambling websites). If someone else accessed my account the only danger is that they could, for example, add the MLS to my favourite leagues or list today's fixtures by competition rather than chronologically. Why am I required to password protect this?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Unfortunately the safety of your passwords can't be guaranteed. There are too many sites with inadequate security. Having a different password for each site means that if one is compromised the others are still safe - as safe as they were before.
What's the password security like here, Percy?
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If you trust the security of your own computer, then there are plenty of technical aids that allow you to retrieve your passwords for a site using a single password or pass phrase that you enter at your computer. With such a system your passwords on every site can be randomly chosen strings that meet the requirements. You can have the computer generate those for you since you don't have to remember them.
Of course, now your password storage becomes a huge attraction for hackers. But you can keep that in one or more physical media that you keep on your person. Just don't lose it... Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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