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Author Topic:   Cures for Global Warming prize offered by Richard Branson
Nighttrain
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Message 1 of 8 (384276)
02-10-2007 7:11 PM


Richard Branson is offering US$25 million for a cure for Global warming, or at least scrub GHGs. Can the brain`s trust at EVC come up with a winner?
Airline tycoon Richard Branson has announced a $US25 million ($A32m) prize for the first person to come up with a way of scrubbing greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere in the battle to beat global warming.
Flanked by climate campaigners former US vice-president Al Gore and British ex-diplomat Crispin Tickell, Sir Richard said he hoped the Virgin Earth Challenge would spur innovative and creative thought to save mankind from self-destruction.
The prize will initially be open for five years, with ideas assessed by a panel of judges including Sir Richard, Mr Gore and Mr Tickell as well as Australian environmentalist Tim Flannery, US climate scientist James Hansen and Briton James Lovelock. "Man created the problem and therefore man should solve the problem," he said.
Branson: $32m to fix global warming
Edited by Nighttrain, : Abe value correction
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed topic title from "Cures for GW" to "Cures for Global Warming prize offered by Richard Branson". When I first saw the original title I thought it was going to be about George W. Bush.

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gene90
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Message 2 of 8 (384283)
02-10-2007 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nighttrain
02-10-2007 7:11 PM


Heh, I predict that as unreactive as CO2 is, and considering the fact that fossil fuels still provide most of our energy sources, any device that could "scrub" GHGs from the atmosphere will inevitably add more CO2 to the atmosphere than it scrubs out.
If you want to address global warming, move over to alternative energy sources first, then see if you need to sequester GHGs from the atmosphere artificially.

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Nighttrain
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Message 3 of 8 (384327)
02-10-2007 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by gene90
02-10-2007 7:35 PM


Fe+H2O
Hi, Gene, what`s your take on the proposal to add the trace element iron to barren patches of ocean. In spite of a number of expeditions with varying results, no one seems to be interested in large-scale seeding. One site among many:
http://www.bbm.me.uk/FeFert/index.htm

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arachnophilia
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Message 4 of 8 (384353)
02-11-2007 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nighttrain
02-10-2007 7:11 PM


finally, a step forward.
i was getting tired of this "it's not really warming" "yes it is" "ok but humans didn't do it" "yes they did" games between the conservative nay-sayers and the rest of the world. i really can't even participate in global warming threads because doing so would mean me yelling "GIVE ME BACK MY WINTER" over and over, and throttling the nearest person denying reality.
so what if humans did it, or didn't do it. it's real. now let's fix it, because otherwise my house will be underwater in less than 20 years.


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gene90
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Message 5 of 8 (384471)
02-11-2007 6:16 PM
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02-10-2007 10:50 PM


Re: Fe+H2O
Thanks for that site Nighttrain.
I've heard this proposed before but don't claim to know anything in depth about this concept.
I would not be opposed to small-scale, thoroughly-documented pilot tests but a large scale attempt would come with all the hazards of perturbing a system you don't understand that well. Specifically I'd be concerned about toxic blooms/red tide-type phenomena. There may be some more biologically-minded people around that could discuss or dispel that concern...

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Nighttrain
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Message 6 of 8 (384511)
02-11-2007 8:34 PM
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02-10-2007 7:11 PM


Moose`s cut
Thanks for that, Moose. Though some say the other GW can be cured by iron as well. Say 500 pounds? From a great height?

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Nighttrain
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Message 7 of 8 (384518)
02-11-2007 8:49 PM
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02-11-2007 6:16 PM


Re: Fe+H2O
Red tide seems to be a phenomenon of shallow, coastal regions rather than the ocean deeps. But Litho-man can straighten us out on that.
Another site with comparisons of GW 'cures'.
Climate Engineering paper (Ben Matthews)
Notice that this site is dated to 1996. Science may have moved on.
Edited by Nighttrain, : additional info

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bgmark2
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Message 8 of 8 (401306)
05-19-2007 6:28 AM


yes...and bio diesil and ethonal are the answer even though it might cost 200 billion a year to do...the savings in enviromental damage and flooding...melting of the ice caps and think of those poor polar bears...it woul;d be worth it.

What about coconuts?

  
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