Help me find a hypocrite!

Ah, Doddy, I meant to reply to you in Message 12.Summary: that's a load of bull. Details in message 12.

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The best place to view a hypocrite is in the mirror.

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Oh, yeah? Well, I'm rubber and you're glue, and what ever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!There, that oughta settle that.

I eat Boca Burgers sometimes, which are supposed to be like beef burgers.They taste good, but they don't taste anything like beef.

As well as ignores the environmental 'cost' of building a new home.

First off, I can't believe that _I_ am the one saying this but... has anyone seen the topic? Enough about tofu already!Here's a potential example as well as why I'm not entirely sure that it fits.John Edwards, who's presidential campaign is primarily about poverty in the US, apparently spent $400 on a haircut recently.Hypocracy? Eh.If you want to really look at where he's spending money, check out his TV ads. How much does 30sec of airtime cost?But we can't count TV ads are hypocracy because he's in a presidential campaign. He's spending money to win the presidency so that he can effect a greater change on poverty.The question then becomes, "Is a $400 haircut necessary to be president?" That I can't really answer. I go to SuperCuts and no one votes for me for anything.Though all in all, I can't see spending $400 on something being really on par with railing against homosexuals, then going home and being a catcher.

I've been saying this for years but always get put down by my fellow liberal fruitcakes.It costs nonrenewable energy to produce devices that produce renewable energy. Wind mills didn't grow out of the ground by themselves.People can call me a pessimist if they want, I just simply don't see how we will solve the environmental factor in the near future. Everything costs nonrenewable energy, mostly fossil fuel. The only effective way to help solve some of our environmental problems is not use the energy at all.

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The news has been reporting on zinc mined in Canada, shipped to Wales for refining, then China, before being shipped to Japan just to get the batteries for a Prius.

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DorfMan writes:

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The best place to view a hypocrite is in the mirror.

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Can you post a screenshot of your mirror?

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Not saying 'except for me' was not an oversight.Edited by DorfMan, : ok

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Mmmmm... I think you've got that the wrong way round. 16 years a veggie, and I still have trouble accepting tofu on my plate. It has to be done just right or it just tastes like rubber. But there's a restaurant here in seattle called 'the teapot' which does an all vegan menu full of soy beef/chicken and fish...
I'm salivating just thinking about it.

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Applause to you. Not just for YOUR health, but for the health of the planet.

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Would you care to substantiate the assertions made in that, uh, article? There are several humdingers, so I suggest you read it again carefully before you start looking for actual data source references.

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I found something that said something that said something I wanted said.
I've seen it said in other places, heard it said in other places, then I simply picked what was seen and heard and found it said what I wanted to say. Shoot me!Before you go to great lengths to capture methane, let's say from cows, think about the resources that will be spent capturing it. You'd need millions and millions of devices hitched to a cow's ass, making sure they don't leak ... and so on.

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ve also never been able to understand that. I find that hypocritical because it's like saying, "I don't want to kill that poor animal, but I sure love the way it taste." Though, I myself have never had "veggie meat," so I can't say how much like the real thing it tastes. (Anyone have a personal review?)

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That analogy is referring to those who are vegetarian for moral reasons, but I'd imagine those who have that diet because they don't like meat wouldn't seek an imitation. (?)

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What you want is for millions of beefs to pass gas and contribute more to the greenhouse effect on this planet than any other method. That is what you want. No?

Which is why the whole hybrid-cars-being-environmentally-friendly bullshit that's been hyped up by everyone is just a commercial tactic to get people to buy these cars. People drive these cars thinking they are helping to divert environmental disasters. What they don't know is that the environmental "costs" to make these cars are just the same or even more than normal cars. There's no escape. Even if tomorrow everyone decides to put a windmill in his backyard, the environmental "costs" to make these windmills will just be the same, if not worse, than if they just use nuclear energy.

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Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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I found something that said something that said something I wanted said.
I've seen it said in other places, heard it said in other places, then I simply picked what was seen and heard and found it said what I wanted to say. Shoot me!

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Well, that's why it is important to actually read the sources you use to support your arguments.(FYI, not everything that people post on the internet is true.)

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Before you go to great lengths to capture methane, let's say from cows, think about the resources that will be spent capturing it. You'd need millions and millions of devices hitched to a cow's ass, making sure they don't leak ... and so on.

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That's not the methane that would be captured.The methane (biogas) production from farm animals is produced from the decomposition of their waste, not from the gas they release themselves.(And cattle don't release the methane by farting, but by belching)

I think the alternative energy theme is far too significant to be buried in a "hypocrite" topic. Care to start one in the "Coffee House"?While something more substantial is desirable, it could start out with just a sentence such as "Hey, let's discuss alternative energy here".AdminnemooseusABE: Never mind - I'll start the new topic.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.

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Even if tomorrow everyone decides to put a windmill in his backyard, the environmental "costs" to make these windmills will just be the same, if not worse, than if they just use nuclear energy.

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Not true.You don't have to mine to get wind.You don't have to do any complicated "enriching" of the wind to make it useful as energy.You don't have to deal with dangerous radioactive spent fuel rods.Wind doesn't cost anything and is 100% renewable.