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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6039 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
Story:
http://news.yahoo.com/...20070529/ap_on_re_us/potter_protest I can't believe there isn't an approriate open thread for this, but I can't find it. While it's certainly old news that fundies don't like Harry Potter books and want them out of school libraries, I love the remarkably direct presentation of hypocrisy at the end of the article:
At Tuesday's hearing, Mallory argued in part that witchcraft is a religion practiced by some people and, therefore, the books should be banned because reading them in school violates the constitutional separation of church and state.
"I have a dream that God will be welcomed back in our schools again," Mallory said. "I think we need him."
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Zhimbo,
I find it hard to believe that bibles aren't held by these libraries. Mark
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Uh....wow.
Like Wicca and Potter had anything in common. And like you'd ban a Bible from a library because it had religious content.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
My old Church School just posted the pictures of the Annual May Pole Celebration.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
That's a nice demonstration of ignorance AND hypocrisy. But it's what we have to expect from these people.
And it's good ammunition for Jar's Great Debate.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Did all the kids go off and have an orgy?
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Ok, I've been wondering about this for a while. Perhaps someone here could tell me.
How come christians who are against Harry Potter won't treat these books and movies like any other work of fiction? Star Trek has never mentioned anything christian before, and we don't see them protest against it. Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : Added the word won't. Apparently, anger is getting the better part of me tonight. We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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anglagard Member (Idle past 864 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
TD writes: How come christians who are against Harry Potter won't treat these books and movies like any other work of fiction? Star Trek has never mentioned anything christian before, and we don't see them protest against it. At the end of the episode about a civilization like the Roman Empire in the original series, the usual suspects (Kirk, Spock, and Bones) are wondering why a parallel to Rome had 'Sun' worshipers. Uhuru said she had been monitoring the planet's broadcasts and they meant not the sun but rather the son of god. Seems to be a bit of Christian imagery to me, but I am having trouble following your point to begin with anyway. More on topic, book challenges to school library holdings are made several hundred times a year. For more information, and a bit of fun (and seriousness) us librarians have at the yokel's expense, see ALAs Banned Book Week page Edited by anglagard, : spelin
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
In addition to anglagard's point, Star Trek doesn't actively promote witchcraft. Other books that do, including The Wizard of Oz and The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, have been targeted by various wingnuts at different times.
Edited by subbie, : tyop Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Tusko Member (Idle past 129 days) Posts: 615 From: London, UK Joined: |
Whoever criticises The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe as anti-Christian would have to be seriously thick, wouldn't they? Remember - Aslan died for our sins.
I'll tell you something that's made me rather unhappy - the fact that The Golden Compass (from the book Northern Lights by Philip Pullman), which is being released as a feature-film later this year, is having the Christianity of the villains toned down, apparently, in order to stop God-botherers getting into a state in the States. That's dumb enough, but I wonder how they are going to tone down the final book, which centre's around the premise that the Christian God is suffering from Altzheimers. Hmmm?
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DorfMan Member (Idle past 6109 days) Posts: 282 From: New York Joined: |
quote: I'm a 'fundie' and I love the Potter books. Guess it depends on the 'fundie'. Doesn't anyone teach perspective any longer? Did that go with the wind as did logic? Simple logic, even? Was a time when the RCC banned the bible and not that long ago. It's all in that simple practice called perspective and how we are threatened by what we perceive as harmful and dangerous to our state of doing and beliefs. A little effort puts Potter in perspective. I don't know what would work for the rcc. Edited by DorfMan, : change a word
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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6039 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
They simply can't continue the "His Dark Materials" films with toned-down religion. I'd be very surprised if the other two books ever make it to film. If you take the "God" out of the "War on God", it isn't going to make much sense.
BTW, Northern Lights is known as The Golden Compass in the U.S.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Doesn't anyone teach perspective any longer? Sure, but all that stuff goes right out the window when Christians have a chance to fire up the Manufactured Persecution Complex machine.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Or maybe they became prostitutes? Certainly much more lucrative, if you ask me.
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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6039 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
More lucrative, and yet utterly irrelevant to this thread.
Are TWO ongoing threads on Prostitution not enough for you? Edited by Zhimbo, : No reason given.
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