Why would god create humans?

The second is the most likely, IMHO. And look at how we are evolving!Yes, humans are wonderous!

We have built dams better than the best beavers.

We have flown farther than the strongest birds.

We have dug deeper than the most industrious creatures!

We have built machines that let us travel faster than a cheetah.

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Our science is impressive, according to our standards. Our literature is varied and rich with character.

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Yet...we are the only species with the potential to destroy ourselves and many living things along with us. Despite our intellectual grasp on the concept of a universe many trillions of times our size, (supposed grasp of understanding, at least) we can't figure out how to get along with each other on this dustspeck called Earth.

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If God is letting us evolve naturally, I wonder how long it will take until we evolve beyond this point of potential destruction?

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“There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way” --C.S.Lewis

I wonder why you perceive "industrious" and "destructive" as different? A top-fuel dragster is naturally more dangerous than a tricycle. With more powerful technology comes more danger. I don't know why you think we can evolve "beyond" that.Similarly, God is naturally more dangerous than we are, because of His superior "technology". The Bible portrays him misusing His technology in the past: for example, flooding the entire earth when fire and brimstone would have been more selective.The Good, the Bad and the Ugly sides of man are all still images of God.

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Im not sure I follow your reasoning. Apparantly, you believe that God is but a creation of the human mind. If that were as far as this went, we could still be moral and do our best according to the human standards which our internal gods had us adhere to. In that regard, humans are responsible for doing the best that they can.Even the Bible supports that idea, according to Charles Stanleys daily devotional this morning. I can see that IF a person believed that God was merely an internal manifestation of individual morality, a person would stillneed to follow the standard which they themselves set internally.

Not necessarily. Our perception of God is a creation of the human mind. Why else would there be so many different perceptions of God?Whether God exists externally or not, our internal "understanding" of God is all we have.

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Maybe for a bit of a laugh? He can sit back and chuckle over his popcorn and jaffas watching us bumble about and make the same mistakes over and over... If I did believe in a god then that would be my only explanation.kakariki

Below is what I personally think.I think the reason God created humans is probably the same as the reason people give a birth to a child.We have an option to have a child. Some people don’t like to have a child due to many reasons such as economic expenses, religious beliefs, personal philosophy, and so on.However, some people would like to have a baby. I think one important reason for many people to want a child, though it may cost them lots of money, is that they have a desire for love and like to have someone to love each other and like to share their emotional feelings and experiences with their child.Since God is love, God may have natural desire to love something, and God probably wanted to create something so he can make love with.As a human likes to have a baby similar in looks to oneself, God probably wanted to create a human in his image.As humans like to share feelings and experiences with their child, God wanted to share feelings and experiences with his people.As humans give a birth to a child in order to have someone to love each other, God wanted mutual love from us.As humans sometimes allow their child to do things sick and twisted in order to make their child realize and understand there are something bad we should not do again.As humans likes to see their child grow gradually into an adult rather than born as a perfect adult, God created humans twisted to some extent since by experiencing growth together, overcoming obstacles together, love may be strengthened.Since God loves humans more than animals, God allowed humans to take advantage of animals.Pretty similar to the reason people like to give a birth to a child. God seemed to create humans so that he can satisfy his desire for making love with something.So all reasons can be attributed to God’s love for humans more than anything else.

One reason my wife and I had a child was because we felt it was a necessary part of the human experience, essentially a part of growing up. Do you think God may have had a similar reason?

God doesnt love humans more then animals. He doesnt love anything, love is a human created emotion/term non existant from the rest of the universe.God just is, he is the energy binding the whole universe together. He sees no rights or wrongs. He didnt make humans. He didnt make anything, he simply ignited the spark and watched the so called fire burn. He is everything and nothing. He is the big bang and everything that followed and preceeded. He is the tao. Yin, Yang, polar opposites. There is no devil, there is no hell, the only hell that you will ever see is the one you create for yourself here on earth. There is no afterlife, there is simply an imprint you leave on the world, your energy, your molecules are used up after you die.Humans are just apes and act according to our genetic makeup. We kill each other just as chimps kill other chimps. We do it for power and control. We do it for food and women to make sure that our genes get passed on to the next generation. We do it to stay alive. Richard Dawkins wrote it best in his book "The Selfish Gene". We are here because our genes want to survive and live forever. We werent formed specifically to witness and know about some higher power, it just so happens that the only way most people can obtain some control over their lives is by believing in god and praying that they live forever.Children are our way to immortality.It is survival of the fittest and thats the way the living world works. God takes no part in deciding who survives, he just sits backs with a cold beer and watches. We kill each other in his name. Christians and muslims and jews all believe in the same god, yet we bomb and blow each other to pieces for him. What its really all about is economics, power, territory, we do it for our genes to make sure we survive. God is just a facade.

I am not arguing that my statements below are objectively correct. I am just stating my personal opinions.Basically, I don’t think it was a necessary process of God.
I think God had an option, and he could do otherwise.For example, God could create other kinds of strange creatures and strange world rather than humans and this kind of world.Here, it is important to distinguish between “God couldn’t” and “God wouldn’t.”I mean I think it’s correct to say “God wouldn’t do otherwise,” but it’s wrong to say “God couldn’t do otherwise.”In other words, God had an option and could create other beings and other kinds of world, but God wouldn’t create other beings and other kinds of world because he thought humans and this world were the best strategy possible for building love for him.God probably wanted a maximization of love between his creatures and him, therefore, although he was able to do otherwise, he wouldn’t do otherwise.

You might be correct. No one knows the answer for sure.
That's what you believe, and What I believe is there must be a God.

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Why would god create humans?
We were supposedly made in his image.
But what kind of god would make a species as sick and twisted as human beings? Would that make god sick and twisted?

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Good parents can have children that become sick and twisted people by their own choice. Empathy with other people is a choice and some people do not choose to do so. The disregard of the well being of other people is the essence of evil.

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I mean seriously why would god create an animal that does this to other life?

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This is the wrong question. The question is why would God create life. It is the nature of living things that they learn new things from the events in their world and make their own choices about how they will respond to them. To create life is therefore to sacrifice absolute control over what you create. The real question is then why would you do this?The answer is, because it is ultimately the only thing worth creating. Absolute control is a boring and meaningless end. To create that which is exactly and nothing more than what you created it to be is only an exercise. It is homework. It is boring.God did all that in the angelic world. Vastly superior beings created instantly with knowledge and power and utterly obedient to His will. How could they ever be anything but servants. Not servants like human servants but servants like computers and robots, vastly superior to ours, but which are still no more and no less than exactly what they were created to be, doing no more and no less than exactly what they were created to do.

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If god were actually inteliigent and could still "poof" he should probably "poof" us out of existence and keep us from killing the rest of his wonderful creations.

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Genesis 6:5-7 "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the Lord said, 'I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."Why did God think to destroy all life rather than just man? Because it was all the same thing really. Billions of years raising up life to realize its greater potentialities, to get human beings whom he could talk to and the result horrified Him. We and the rest of the life on this planet are all brothers, no more than that, we are part of one living and breathing organism. If only we would understand this.Anyway, God did not carry through with this plan, why? Because He found a man who was not like the others. No matter how evil most men became, some can choose to be different. And so after the flood He realized what needed to be done. He must encourage this tendency of men to be different. So when men again started to build one unified and monolithic culture represented by the Tower of Babel, God detroyed it and scattered mankind accross the earth and confused their languages so that they would no longer understand one another. Of course this would make war inevitable wouldn't it? But at the same time it made freedom a possibility.

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If god were a highly intelligent being he wouldn't allow one species to destroy so many of his other creations. At least not any god that I could possibly concieve of. If I were god and had created so much life, I wouldn't let one species of them kill the rest off just because the killers actually knew I existed.

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And yet through our mistakes we are beginning to learn. Slowly we are becoming more responsible. Even when most people did not care, a few learned to be different and not only love the other creatures on this planet but to begin fighting for them as well.

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Why would we evolve from nothing more than merely chance? Why would we evolve into sick and twisted human beings? Such an incredible process as evolution, the incredible brain and all it's capacity, and the formation of humans over millions of years has boiled down to putting a bear in a cage that can't even hold him? wtf? His ways are not our ways, and I hope that all questions like yours will be answered one day, and this is all just a test for something better. (not saying that life is that bad, but hoping for something more)

The problem here is that "sick and twisted" is a subjective judgment. Sick and twisted as compared to what? Why is the rest of his creation necessarily so wonderful? Maybe it's not wonderful. Subjective judgment.Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

As a counterexample, there are things affecting empathy that have nothing to do with choice or with good and evil. On the one hand consider Asperger syndrome (hereditary social and communication dysfunction), and on the other hand another syndrome that is the result of a rare genetic defect, and whose name I cannot recall, but it causes retardation, an elven appearance, and very outgoing and friendly personalities.--Percy