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ramoss
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Message 16 of 126 (322330)
06-16-2006 2:39 PM
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06-15-2006 5:18 PM


One key point of the article is
Those who participated on the Noah’s Ark expedition to Northern Iran today clarified to KIN that they were making no actual claim that they found Noah’s Ark.

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rgb
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Message 17 of 126 (322360)
06-16-2006 3:52 PM


I just noticed this thread. I think it's cool that Noah's ark could have broken into so many intact pieces, ended up in all those different places, and be found by so many people over the decades. I bet that if we put all the arks people have found together, we could have on our hands a mathematically impossible boat that will trump modern math as we know it.

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Chiroptera
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Message 18 of 126 (322362)
06-16-2006 3:55 PM
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06-16-2006 3:52 PM


quote:
I bet that if we put all the arks people have found together...
...it would be big enough to hold all 10 million species that are estimated to exist on the earth.

"These monkeys are at once the ugliest and the most beautiful creatures on the planet./ And the monkeys don't want to be monkeys; they want to be something else./ But they're not."
-- Ernie Cline

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rgb
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Message 19 of 126 (322365)
06-16-2006 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by anglagard
06-16-2006 5:42 AM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
anglagard writes
quote:
It would help the cause of all humanity if these hucksters were denounced by all Christians, including fundamentalists.
Big chance of that happening. People nowadays believe in aliens, ghosts, santa, etc. without ever having seen them or seen hard data on the existence of these things. And most interestingly, the ark seems to be the most believable one because it came straight out from the good book.

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arachnophilia
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Message 20 of 126 (322367)
06-16-2006 3:59 PM
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06-16-2006 3:55 PM


quote:
I bet that if we put all the arks people have found together...
...it would be big enough to hold all 10 million species that are estimated to exist on the earth.
hahah, touche.


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rgb
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Message 21 of 126 (322369)
06-16-2006 4:02 PM
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06-16-2006 3:55 PM


Chiroptera writes
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...it would be big enough to hold all 10 million species that are estimated to exist on the earth.
Not only enough room for those 10 million+ species but also enough supplies to keep them healthy and ready to repopulate the planet for 40 days and 40 nights. That means that there would be enough room to keep whole herds of herbivores to keep the carvnivores happy, lots and lots of plants to keep the herbivores happy, top of the line electric full spectrum lightings for the cold blooded animal to bask under, lots and lots of decaying stuff to keep the creepy crawly stuff happy, enough fresh water to keep everyone and everything happy... you get the idea.

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Buzsaw
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Message 22 of 126 (322418)
06-16-2006 8:34 PM
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06-16-2006 5:42 AM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
anglagard writes:
Is there no limit to degrading Christianity for monetary gain these charlatans won't stoop to?
It would help the cause of all humanity if these hucksters were denounced by all Christians, including fundamentalists.
It's not Biblically degrading to Christianity to assume there's archeological evidence out there somewhere of what the Christian Bible claims is it?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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jar
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Message 23 of 126 (322420)
06-16-2006 8:47 PM
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06-16-2006 8:34 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
It's not Biblically degrading to Christianity to assume there's archeological evidence out there somewhere of what the Christian Bible claims is it?
No but it is degrading to manufacture evidence, doctor evidence, misrepresent evidence and take advantage of ignorant gullible folk like Ron Wyatt and Bob Cornuke do.

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Message 24 of 126 (322435)
06-16-2006 10:30 PM
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06-16-2006 3:52 PM


Only One Matches the Biblical Record
rgb writes:
I bet that if we put all the arks people have found together, we could have on our hands a mathematically impossible boat that will trump modern math as we know it.
LOL. There's only one match to the Biblical record and that is the Wyatt site.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 25 of 126 (322437)
06-16-2006 10:41 PM
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06-16-2006 8:47 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
1. Nobody has successfully debunked the Wyatt site perse yet, though there are debatable Wyatt specifics about things studied at the site which would likely be the case no matter who discovered it.
2. Like the chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba of the Red Sea, secularists really don't want to find good evidence of Biblical stuff. They decline to even seriously research the sites, much like the Pharasees who wanted to kill both Jesus and Lazarus after witnessing the miraculous even, for to admit would be to admit they are wrong and Jesus was indeed the OT prophesied messiah......and for that matter much like Jar and others of EvC who've seen the evidence for the Exodus crossing complete with the corroborating stuff needed and find every imaginable excuse to debunk it or seriously investigate. .

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Rob 
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Message 26 of 126 (322439)
06-16-2006 10:42 PM


Gotta love it!
I don't see the need to even remain open-minded about such nonsense! Everybody knows that the Bible is made up, and there was certianly no Ark as Per Noah!
Which one of you said you haven't reached a conclusion??? You better!
Do you know what it would mean if it were true? Why untold thousands of high-minded scientific people would have to re-sift all the facts that they thought meant one thing... into another.
You gotta love the fact... that it's possible!
Well, I do anyway! Sorry for the sarcasm, I just can't help it.
Rob

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jar
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Message 27 of 126 (322442)
06-16-2006 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Buzsaw
06-16-2006 10:41 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
buz writes:
1. Nobody has successfully debunked the Wyatt site perse yet, though there are debatable Wyatt specifics about things studied at the site which would likely be the case no matter who discovered it.
Bullhockey. I personally have debunked every single bit of evidence that has been brought up, the petroglyphs pictures he doctored, the calf altar he claimed to find, the guard shack, the wgaon wheels, all of it. The man may have been simply delusional, but that is the most gracious thing that can be said about him.
2. Like the chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba of the Red Sea, secularists really don't want to find good evidence of Biblical stuff.
Nonsense. Finding chariot wheels there is not evidence of the Exodus myth. Hell, you should find such things all over the damn area. There is no excuse needed to debunk the evidence, there is NO evidence to debunk. Only someone totally gullible, willing to totally suspend critical analysis could ever believe ANY of Ron Wyatts asinine claims.
If you want to start yet another thread on Ron Wyatt's alleged evidence please do so. I still have links to most of the FACTS and will be happy to address each so called pieces of evidence.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 28 of 126 (322446)
06-16-2006 11:05 PM
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06-16-2006 10:52 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
there is NO evidence to debunk.
I hope it is OK for me to step in here jar. I just couldn't help but notice that your tone is absolute in nature. You may well be right in your analysis, that I concede from the outset. But if you are, then someone else is wrong. And with truth being an abstraction and relative, I don't understand the fundamental aura of your opining.
Would you care to stay open-minded and consider the possiblity, even if it would mean a total reassesment of your current (yet tentative)wourldview?

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Buzsaw
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Message 29 of 126 (322447)
06-16-2006 11:15 PM
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06-16-2006 10:52 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
Jar writes:
Bullhockey. I personally have debunked every single bit of evidence that has been brought up, the petroglyphs pictures he doctored, the calf altar he claimed to find, the guard shack, the wgaon wheels, all of it. The man may have been simply delusional, but that is the most gracious thing that can be said about him.
Jar, the only one you've personally convinced of every bit is yourself. LOL on the bogus boast. Your imagination is wonderful.
Jar writes:
Finding chariot wheels there is not evidence of the Exodus myth. Hell, you should find such things all over the damn area.
But you don't find them all over the damn area. You only find them amongst the vital corroborating evidence as per the Biblical record.
Jar writes:
There is no excuse needed to debunk the evidence, there is NO evidence to debunk. Only someone totally gullible, willing to totally suspend critical analysis could ever believe ANY of Ron Wyatts asinine claims.
You're intellectually blind Jar with those blinders you put on when the evidence is provided for Biblical stuff.
Jar writes:
If you want to start yet another thread on Ron Wyatt's alleged evidence please do so. I still have links to most of the FACTS and will be happy to address each so called pieces of evidence.
How about another Great Debate whopping by ole Buz, this time on the Exodus crossing at Nuweiba, as to whether's there's evidence or not for the credibility of a viable hypothesis as per the Biblical record? Notice that like in other science, I didn't say proof I said viable evidence which you claim to have debunked as myth, i.e. imperically falsified.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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jar
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Message 30 of 126 (322449)
06-16-2006 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Rob
06-16-2006 11:05 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
Did. Considered the evidence that has been put forward so far and the evidence is conclusive. Ron Wyatt has NO evidence.
Based on all of the available evidence:
There was NO worldwide flood within the last 600,000 years.
The Exodus story as told in the Bible NEVER happened.
The conquest of Canaan as told in Joshua NEVER happened.
Now someday someone may come up with some evidence that would lead me to change that position. I freely admit that. But so far there is NO evidence any of those things ever happened and LOTS of evidence that they did NOT happen.
Frankly, the material that Ron Wyatt puts forward as evidence would not even be acceptable in an Elementary School Science Fair, certainly not at Middle school or above.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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